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Defending yourself from genocide is not terrorism
When do you think the supposed genocide started?
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What benchmark are you using for standard of life?
There’s probably not one single benchmark (and I won’t say that all of them are negative in the US) but we can just think generally about the things we’d like in a good life: Life expectancy. Chronic disease rates. Suicide rates. Depression rates. Violent crime rates. Marriage rates. Home ownership rates. Education rates. Debt rates. Labor participation rates. Wealth inequity. No one metric is a complete picture but…
Unfortunately for Americans, it's not the CEO at fault here actually, it's the middle class and left-leaning/progressive that are directly responsible for many of the problems here. The funny thing is that Republican Party being in complete power with Trump would be more similar to the CCP than the Democrats or Progressives. Suppressing dissenting voices like Pro-Palestine in order to force national homogenity is a big part of that.
And I say this as someone who supported Biden and Kamala, but these left-wingers or libertarians who are so vehemtly opposed to the US Gov but then simp for China are just being childishly incoherent.
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> This is nonsense, there is no genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid or anything of the sort. False. False. False. ‣ re: genocide [genocide Gaza]( https://www.google.com/search?q=genocide%20gaza ) ‣ re: ethnic cleansing [ethnic cleansing]( https://www.google.com/search?q=ethnic%20cleansing%20israel ) ‣ re: apartheid [apartheid `Israel`]( https://www.google.com/search?q=apartheid%20israel ) What does it say about you…
Second, apartheid are a set or racist laws within a country. There is no apartheid in Israel, every citizen has equal rights including the 2 MILLION muslim arabs living there. There are Arabic political parties, Arabic supreme court judges, there was actually an Arabic supreme court judge that sent an Ashkenazi president to prison! That's not apartheid, this would never have happened in South Africa.
Genocide when you try to kill an entire people. Here is the definition "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." How is 50k death, with about half of them being Hamas genocide? It's laughable. Israel, as they've stated many times, are after Hamas. If anything you need to re-examine your perspective. Hamas is who committed genocide, they were just too weak to pull it off.
It's funny that you mention "The Nakba" and you don't even know what it means. For starters the "catastrophe" isn't the displacement. What people mean by it is that they failed to destory Israel. Second, it didn't happen in a vaccuum. It was part of the larger context of the Arab Israeli war, where 5 countries, including many people residing in the region attempted to genocide (your favorite word) the newly formed Israel. Also, literally every history book that isn't 100% one-sided will show you that it was a mix of reasons for the 700,000 people that were displaced. Many, if not most, were urged to leave by their leader who told them they would annihilate the Jews and they could go back, some left out of fear, since war was coming, obviously, and some were driven out, which makes sense. If you attack a people, they will drive you out. Another thing that isn't mentioned there which IS an ethnic cleansing, is the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Arabic countries during that same period. If you look at the population of Arabic countries from 1948 and now you will see a stark stark difference. You definitely won't see something like 2,000,000 Jews living in these places.
What is Israel and the U.S. occupying this is a nonsense argument as well. People who claim that, think that somehow the entirety of Israel is occupied. More nonsense.
The blockade is not illegal, if it was it still wouldn't matter as no country can be expected to absorb terrorist attacks. Funny how the focus is always on Israel and not Egypt, who has a "blockade" as well. Btw, these did not exist until the Intifadas. They make sense.
The pager attack, was the single most accurate military attack in military history.
Writing "false" on my arguments doesn't maks you right. You are just spreading propaganda, and I urge anyone reading this research this on their own. You are both extremely uneducated on this and need to read books not do Google searches.
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#714I think my country (USA) would be healthier if a common sense viewpoint was selected and held. Conflicts are always terrible, and the Eurasia / Africa region countries are particularly brutal. Every citizen of every country has a human right (in a civilized civilization / society) to live a life that does not involve violence. A life where they are not worried about RPGs, bombings, (etc,) or military invasions. Some…
this is grossly misunderstanding the situation in Gaza, a two state solution was never acceptable to Israel, Hamas as it exists today is a result of Netanyahu policy. Israel created the monster to justify their genocide.
Most recently in 2008, Israel made exactly such an offer and was rejected.
"Abbas has since confirmed that he turned down an Israeli offer for a Palestinian state on nearly 95% of the West Bank. In September 2008, Olmert had presented him with a map that delineated the borders of the proposed PA state, for which Israel would annex 6.3 percent of the West Bank and compensate the Palestinians with 5.8 percent (taken from pre-1967 Israel), which Abbas stated he rejected out of hand, insisting instead to demarcate the 4 June 1967 borders of Palestine. He said that Olmert did not give a map of the proposal and that he could not sign without seeing the proposal. Abbas also said that he was not an expert on maps and pointed to Olmert's corruption investigation (he was later convicted).[68][69] Abbas said in October 2011 that he made a counteroffer to let Israel annex 1.9% of the West Bank."
Sadly, English wikipedia has a lot less information on this than the Hebrew wikipedia, but maybe turn your translation software to this: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%95%D7%AA...
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All military actions made by oppressed peoples is legitimate resistance and your framing of Palestinians as instigators is troubling.
not wearing uniform, attacking civilians, capturing hostages and holding your own civilian population hostage by violently taking over the commercial distribution of free humanitarian aid can not be called legitimate in any way
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Defending yourself from genocide is not terrorism
right, if you, for example, wear uniform, and if you, for example, have not started the war and didnt cause the genocide by not wearing uniform, by using civilians as human shields, and by stealing the humanitarian aid and reselling it to poor displaced civilians, that you then cynically enlist to die for your cause, because there is no other source of cash to feed your families. you should also consider the sequence…
The Israelis also actively prevent any aid from reaching gaza, including going so far as to attack and destroy the aid.
Maybe YOU should think before spreading Zionist(read: terrorist) propaganda.
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What country are you from? It is entirely possible they are still terrorists you just decided as society to ignore it.
The ICC has never issued any arrest warrants for our elected/appointed government officials if that's what you are asking.
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this is grossly misunderstanding the situation in Gaza, a two state solution was never acceptable to Israel, Hamas as it exists today is a result of Netanyahu policy. Israel created the monster to justify their genocide.
Except Hamas took over Gaza in 2006/7 more or less in it's current form, before Netanyahu came back into power at 2009. Hamas has always been an extreme organization, they executed a bunch of Fatah members by throwing them off buildings when they took over gaza, not exactly a fun loving bunch. Sure Netanyahu didn't exactly help to see the least, but saying he is somehow solely responsible for Hamas is pretty biased.
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> I assume people that are not paid have a bit of shame and they are also lazy and not work hard to justify why killing children is OK In other words, you assume that people that disagree with you must be bots or paid trolls? That certainly explains why you think Reddit is full of them :) I will often write stuff that you would probably consider pro-Israeli. I'm not a troll and don't get paid for it. Do you simply di…
I give you a lot of clues on how to detect a bot I did not said that all people that disagree with me ar bots, for example I disagree with lot of MAGA uninformed people and they are not bots, I can see they are behaving like regular people. Read those hints again, is your account a f ew days old, do you only post about Israel? do you comments appear super fast in response to my comments like it was triggered by alarm…
You're putting a bunch of barriers between hearing someone else's opinion and accepting it as valid.
> Read those hints again, is your account a f ew days old, do you only post about Israel?
In my case, no and no.
> do you comments appear super fast in response to my comments like it was triggered by alarms?
I do what plenty of other HN users do - I use a 3rd party service that notifies me when someone replies to any of my posts.
> can't be 100% sure if you are paid, could be someone doing is mandatory unpaid military service.
Which is exactly the problem with your approach. You can write off anyone, including me, as "well they are actually being paid". How can I prove that I'm not?
Also, most Israelis between the ages of 18-21 are doing their mandatory military service, that in itself isn't a reason not to listen to them.
Btw, military service is not unpaid; IDF soldiers receive a salary, though it's much lower than almost any market wage.
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> Hamas has broken ever cease fire since they took power. Israel has broken every ceasefire, though US media tends to treat Israeli attacks as hiccups and challenges to ceasefires involving Israel and those on the other side as more serious. This is similar to the way that the same linguistic cause/effect separation (sometimes termed the “exonerative tense” or “exonerative mood”) frequently used to deflect responsibi…