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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by enoch_r »

consteval wrote: post #706
enoch_r wrote: post #667

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reality is that transgender Americans have been doing these things, all these things, for many decades. Do you have any evidence for that? For example, do you have evidence of any of these happening in the US before, say, 1990? - any openly transgender athlete participating in sports on the team of their preferred gender rather than their sex assigned at birth? - large numbers of children receiving "gender-affi…

> For me it simply doesn't pass the laugh test that a trans woman with a penis could walk into a nude spa in the 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s without anyone batting an eye. They weren't, and they still aren't. The idea that transwomen want to be around ciswomen and hang brain is a conservative fantasy. You would very much like to believe that is true, because you believe transwomen are inherently perverted sexual deviants.…

> They weren't, and they still aren't. The idea that transwomen want to be around ciswomen and hang brain is a conservative fantasy.

I think you're probably right that the vast majority of trans women are completely uninterested in such a thing. And yet:

In San Francisco activists protested a policy that excluded trans women from a nude bathhouse one night per month for a "phallus free" womens night. They were investigated by the city's Human Rights Commission after numerous reports and reversed course - no more "phallus free" nights. In Washington State a trans activist sued a nude female-only Korean spa for not providing her with service because of her male genitalia.

Are these specific people merely fighting back to try to retain a right that was already "settled" back in 1970? Or are they trying to claim a new right?

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Post by bobalob »

hobs wrote: post #705
bobalob wrote: post #589

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This article is a good read, it explains why it's problematic to bestow upon men awards that were intended for women: https://www.filia.org.uk/latest-news/2018/9/21/does-the-appa...

Apologies, but I really do not care about sports awards or whatever - we're basically at the point in the USA that we're trying (or succeeding) to force de-transitioning because of bullshit like "He took her awards!" When there's an impact that individual bad actors have, that's why we have individual punishments - we don't punish all men or all women for one bad actor, its nonsensical to treat trans folks as some ho…

Understood, but I would still recommend reading that article, as it addresses some of your points and you may find it an interesting perspective.

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Post by rayiner »

This lady is sketchy as hell. First, the U.S. revoked her visa:

> He revoked my visa, and told me I could still work for the company from Canada, but if I wanted to return to the US, I would need to reapply.

She's Canadian and lives in Canada, so she returned to Canada. But instead of applying for a visa again, she apparently flew to Mexico and tried to get in through the southern border:

> I restarted the visa process and returned to the same immigration office at the San Diego border, since they had processed my visa before and I was familiar with it.

Last I checked San Diego doesn't share a border with Canada. Why is a Canadian with a revoked Visa flying to Mexico to try and enter the U.S. through the southern border?

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anonshadow wrote: post #570

This is the money shot : "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts. The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these…

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Post by MisterTea »

genewitch wrote: post #424
cratermoon wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ACAB

"The bishop's smile, a gilded, hollow thing, hides taxman's greed, and whispers of the king; the knight's sworn oath, a rusted, broken chain, while village elders plot for whispered, selfish gain; no judge's word, nor lord's decree rings true, in thirteen twelve, what's left for us to do?"

Where is this quoted from?

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Post by FireBeyond »

javcasas wrote: post #418
abeppu wrote: post #201

Her point about private contractors being paid by the number of people detained is an important larger warning. Privatized systems are not magically more efficient; they can just as easily be the driver of the bureaucratic labyrinth.

Perverse incentives. Someone didn't think about it, or maybe they did.

Hell, even without the private aspect.

Prison guard unions universally and almost exclusively oppose any legalization and decriminalization efforts, regardless of the subject.

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Post by bergie »

snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

The only border experience I've ever had that was worse than US was Canada. And I've traveled quite extensively.

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Post by kragen »

sillyfluke wrote: post #694
kragen wrote: post #566

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This has been HN policy since the beginning, and while HN is usually still quite unpleasant, policies like this one are largely responsible for preventing it from being worse. There are social contexts where discussions of topics like US immigration policy can do good rather than harm, but HN is not one of them.

>This has been HN policy since the beginning, This is not true, at least according to dang if I recall correctly. There was a change in moderation strategy since the pg days. The way I remember dang's own explanation was that pg was more hands off in his moderation of political topics. Sure, you can say that it wasn't the same community back then, less flamewars etc, but the fact of the matter is the creator of this…

You're right; the guideline to not submit most stories about politics was not present from the beginning, but rather newly added in May 02008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080527112502/http://ycombinato...

But that greatly predates the changes in moderation strategies or hiring dang and sctb.

Surely the understanding of the site's social dynamics has evolved over time, though, and so the reasons for the same guideline are different now.

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