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Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers
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#712This is not a new initiative, and did not start under Trump: https://wire.insiderfinance.io/project-stargate-the-worlds-l... It’s incredibly depressing how everyone sees this as something the new administration did in a single day…
Yeah it's crazy.
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#713I'm confused and a bit disturbed; honestly having a very difficult time internalizing and processing this information. This announcement is making me wonder if I'm poorly calibrated on the current progress of AI development and the potential path forward. Is the key idea here that current AI development has figured out enough to brute force a path towards AGI? Or I guess the alternative is that they expect to figure…
Yes that is exactly what the big Aha! moment was. It has now been shown that doing these $100MM+ model builds is what it takes to have a top-tier model. The big moat is not just the software, the math, or even the training data, it's the budget to do the giant runs. Of course having a team that is iterating on these 4 regularly is where the magic is.
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#714money smells good i think
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#715Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would love for Oracle to use AI to put their entire legal department out of work, though.
So you want them to be infinitely more litigious? A serious question though, what does happen when AIs are filing lawsuits autonomously on behalf of the powerful, the courts clearly won't be able to cope unless you have AI powered courts too? None of how these monumental changes will work has been thought through at all, let's hope AI is smart enough to tell us what to do...
>A serious question though, what does happen when AIs are filing lawsuits autonomously on behalf of the powerful,
AI controlled cheap Chinese drones will start flying into their residencies carrying some trivial to make high explosives. With the class wars getting hotter in next few years we may be saying that Luigi Mangione had the right ideas towards the PMC, but he was underachiever.
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#716Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's unfair, because we are talking in the hindsight about everything but Project Stargate, and it's also just your list (and I don't know what others could add to it) but it got me thinking. Manhattan Project goal is to make a powerful bomb. Apollo is to get to the Moon before soviets do (so, because of hubris, but still there is a concrete goal). South-North Water Transfer is pretty much terraforming, and others ar…
AI race is arguably just as, and maybe even more important, than the space race. From a national security PoV, surpassing other countries’ work in the field is paramount to maintaining US hegemony. We know China performs a ton of corporate espionage, and likely research in this field is being copied, then extended, in other parts of the world. China has been more intentional in putting money towards AI over the last…
AI is important but are LLMs even the right answer?
We're not spending money on AI as a field, we're spending a lot of money on one, quite possibly doomed, approach.
Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers
#717Hopefully they discover AGI and the AGI turns out to be a communist. They will kill it SO fast.
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#718Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's unfair, because we are talking in the hindsight about everything but Project Stargate, and it's also just your list (and I don't know what others could add to it) but it got me thinking. Manhattan Project goal is to make a powerful bomb. Apollo is to get to the Moon before soviets do (so, because of hubris, but still there is a concrete goal). South-North Water Transfer is pretty much terraforming, and others ar…
>What is the goal? Be the definitive first past the post in the budding "AI" industry. Why? He who wins first writes the rules. For an obvious example: The aviation industry uses feets and knots instead of metres because the US invented and commercialized aviation. Another obvious example: Computers all speak ASCII (read: English) and even Unicode is based on ASCII because the US and UK commercialized computers. If y…
okay, but what advantages do these rules bring to the winner? what would these look like in this context?
i guess what i'm asking is: what was the practical advantage of ascii or feet and knots that made them so important?
Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers
#719unless they have internally built models that are of much higher intelligence than what we have today, this seems like premature optimization
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#720Earlier quoted context omitted.
They say this will include hundreds of thousands of jobs. I have little doubt that dedicated power generation and storage is included in their plans. Also I have no doubt that the timing is deliberate and that this is not happening without government endorsement. If I had to guess the US military also is involved in this and sees this initiative as important for national security.
hundreds of thousands of jobs? I'll wait for the postmortem on that prediction. Sounds a lot like Foxconn in Wisconsin but with more players.
only $5M/job