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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by drunner »

nicce wrote: post #674
tqi wrote: post #425

Its ironic, because this dude doesn't seem to care enough to even the slightest bit of research to understand why any of these problems he highlights are the way they are, and lazily attributes everything to OTHER people not caring. LEDs last longer, are more energy efficient, and also reduce light pollution because they are more directional[1]. Took me 30 seconds to google. There are enormous design standards for de…

I would even argue that the current design of the bike line is better than the one suggested by the author. It forces the biker to slow down and reduces the collision risks with others in the line. It is selfish to think only about the biker coming from the hill. The biker that thinks it is okay to drive 20mph in that situation.

Yeah, that's why we put sharp turns at the bottom of roads too.

It is selfish to only think about the driver coming from the hill. The driver that thinks it is okay to drive 45mph in that situation.

Do you see the irony of your statement.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by fennecbutt »

gizmo wrote: post #614
tqi wrote: post #425

Its ironic, because this dude doesn't seem to care enough to even the slightest bit of research to understand why any of these problems he highlights are the way they are, and lazily attributes everything to OTHER people not caring. LEDs last longer, are more energy efficient, and also reduce light pollution because they are more directional[1]. Took me 30 seconds to google. There are enormous design standards for de…

Of course there are "reasonable justifications" for the shitty status quo, but that's kind of the point. Things are shitty for reasons but not for good reasons. The author points to Japan to illustrate that you do get measurably better results when people habitually try to do good work. We're not actually doomed to have crappy furniture, flimsy and buggy appliances, byzantine legal codes, ugly architecture, and hosti…

Eh, I think as always is still just comes down to resource contention right at the root of the issues. We still all monk e, some things will never change.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by grajaganDev »

jeffhuys wrote: post #526
arretevad wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon only cares about enriching himself.

I think he mostly cares about getting humanity off this planet, he's been saying that for a long, long time. Starting a space company to enrich yourself sounds like a very weird thing to do if you only care about money.

He only cares about benefiting himself and promoting his image.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by drunner »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #681
cassepipe wrote: post #653

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok for LEDs and your general point but for the bike lane situation you are kind of shooting yourself in the foot : It's either non-standard compliant bike lane, which is a problem, or it is standard compliant and then it means that the standard is a broad, inflexible set of rules dictated from the top which is either too complicated for people in charge of the implementation or leaves them no room to adapt to a speci…

Maybe they would rather not have bikers bombing onto the sidewalk at 20 mph when they are going to be sharing that space with pedestrians. A sharp turn is a good way to prevent that. I assume there are several "bike lane ends" signs here, though, which should be an indication to slow down.

Imagine if you were talking about a road doing this for no reason. The engineers care about how fast you can go in a car around town, not bikes. You can't argue bike lanes get the same amount of care/effort as roads.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by drunner »

ieee2 wrote: post #682
cassepipe wrote: post #653

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok for LEDs and your general point but for the bike lane situation you are kind of shooting yourself in the foot : It's either non-standard compliant bike lane, which is a problem, or it is standard compliant and then it means that the standard is a broad, inflexible set of rules dictated from the top which is either too complicated for people in charge of the implementation or leaves them no room to adapt to a speci…

Yes, the less sharp angle of the described bike-lane would imply that biker can get into the sidewalk in high speed without issue and harm a pedestrian easier.

Yeah, that's why when pedestrians have to cross where cars are that there is always a stop sign to make sure their high speed won't harm a pedestrian /sarcasm.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by NoGravitas »

Aeolun wrote: post #392
deeg wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a friend who sees what he thinks is a problem and starts off with "I don't know why they just didn't...", as if he could come up with a better solution in 2 minutes of thinking than experts in the field. The reality is that he just doesn't know all the competing interests and problems. The article feels the same way.

Knowing that there is a reason just boils down to the same thing. You can overcome the forced working against you if you care enough, but nobody does.

You're more likely to burn out butting your head against the incentives working against you. If you're lucky, you may get a few successes before you burn out.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by minifridge »

heurist wrote: post #399

This is cynical. There are a lot of people who do care. Consider that someone cared enough to build a bike lane in the first place. IMO life is hard for most people and as much as most would love to "care", they have to take care of themselves and their families first. The caring is focused where it is best applied. I also don't think Elon would bother fixing a bike ramp or installing dog bag dispensers around his ho…

I think it is the direction of the situation, rather than the state of things, that is concerning. The general direction is that everyone is incentivized and rewarded to look after their bottom line and personal gain and then everything else.

IMO, not caring about the wider impact of our actions is something that will keep happening at an increasing rate.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by flpm »

It's a sad realization. When our culture only values profit as a measure of success there is a strong incentive to cut down costs (now) in exchange for quality (that will only be perceived in the future). It slowly moves down the threshold, bit by bit, until you suddenly realize how much we all lost for a few very rich people to become a little bit richer.
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