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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by spike021 »

lambdaba wrote: post #572
babyshake wrote: post #532

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"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

In response to uninformed sibling comments reflexively fearing cannabis use in drivers, see here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/ > Cannabis users perceive their driving under the influence as impaired and more cautious, and given a dose of 7 mg THC (about a third of a joint), drivers rated themselves as impaired even though their driving performance was not; in contrast, at a BAC 0.04% (slightl…

Next we'll have studies seeking to prove drivers who drink enough to reach the Ballmer Peak will have a mind in the utmost condition for driving.

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Post by moomoo11 »

romeros wrote: post #652
starspangled wrote: post #620

The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, doesn't it? Why haven't they taken action until now? People aren't children to be appeased by such gestures.

You have to keep some things in the bank to use in certain circumstances.

It’s all a game. The sooner you realize it and that there is no option but to play the game, the better you and everyone else will be.

And the game never ends and cannot be beaten. Any bs like “just don’t play the game bro” ok then go live on Mars and make a game there. Don’t drive on the roads, don’t use any utilities, and try to self exile.

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Post by Jiro »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #337
giantg2 wrote: post #327

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Not necessarily. It depends on the risks, morals, and stuff like ESG. We've seen this with stuff like alcohol, tobacco, and guns.

But you can buy alcohol, tobacco and guns with just about any payment method?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point

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Post by iancmceachern »

drusepth wrote: post #706
iancmceachern wrote: post #688

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Free will is fortunate, not unfortunate

Interestingly, different people often want different things (including free will and a lack of free will).

Isn't the lack of free will also the lack of consciousness?

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Post by ajmurmann »

eru wrote: post #672
komali2 wrote: post #665

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Except that author argues for "the market" to be more in charge than governments, which baffles me because the market is also people. I'd be surprised if people pretend the market is still rational: see nfts. Or the modern stock market. Not to mention the market irrationally rewards short term good (or even bad) and long term bad behavior, but it does it consistently, so no long term good behavior can ever win out. S…

> I'd be surprised if people pretend the market is still rational: see nfts. Or the modern stock market. NFTs are an entertainment / art product. Them having non-zero value is the same as the original Mona Lisa selling for more than a perfect replica. What about the stock market are you darkly hinting at? > Not to mention the market irrationally rewards short term good (or even bad) and long term bad behavior, but it…

Well, NFTs are worthless now and growth stock has expected growth priced in many years in advance. Predicting the future just use really hard. I'd argue that prices of things in the now are pretty rational.

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Post by moomoo11 »

danielbln wrote: post #683
moomoo11 wrote: post #396

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Make money for yourself and live your best life. There’s no point in caring too much about anything or anyone else. Free will and all that. Not my problem. I have insurances and pay for services. I’ve pretty much accepted that most people are just there to destroy society. So I stopped caring about anyone but myself. The only people I will get up and help are my direct blood relatives.

Ah, that American rugged individualism. That's why y'all can be homeless in a blink or medically bankrupt.

What’s the alternative?

It’s not like any other country in the world is any better. All countries have problems. My friend is one of those rich liberals who left the country for EU bouncing between Spain Germany and Netherlands before settling in Germany. Now he complains about life there and thinking about Singapore..

I’m from a 3rd world country. Corruption and people treating others like ants is common. It’s why I grew up without running water or power there because of some asshole.

The best outcome is you try to win, because I didn’t choose to spawn into this hybrid RTS game with basically a free for all rules GTA online server.

You need money, planning, and resources to ensure your safety and prosperity.

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Post by refurb »

starspangled wrote: post #620

The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

Do you think that’s driving this decision?

From what I gathered the DEA was looking at this over the past few years.

It wasn’t a Presidential decision.

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Post by atoav »

romeros wrote: post #652
starspangled wrote: post #620

The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, doesn't it? Why haven't they taken action until now? People aren't children to be appeased by such gestures.

If you want to fix things you need to give parties with a track record¹ of improving things a significant majority.

I like to see democracy as a system that in it's most basic mode of participation is more like a negative right: You don't wish for a thing and get it, instead you can prevent things you don't want from happening again. That is why track record should be much more important than promises. Nowadays the political debate in the US seems to be even beyond promises: it has become purely symbolic where they expect you to fill in the blanks.

If you want more specific things from your democracy you have to invest more time, vote in local elections, maybe run yourself, write to representatives etc. This is especially the thing you should do if you are unhappy with all options. Earn your right to complain.

¹ what they say doesn't count at all — check their track record, laws they passed, how numbers developed during their last governing period in comparison to neighbouring countries etc.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

jjcm wrote: post #262
xp84 wrote: post #170

From the article: "Then there’s the United States’ international treaty obligations, chief among them the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, which requires the criminalization of cannabis." Ah, I see. Somehow I doubt that if the US announced it would withdraw from this treaty, to be replaced by an amended version, we'd be invaded immediately by all our (former) allies and be driven straight into the sea. Like,…

Canada got told "shame on you" when they legalized. That seems to be about the extent of the ramifications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Narcotics_Contro...

Yeah the irony here is that it's been the US making the most trouble on this topic. Border agents were pretty difficult for a while, and in theory they can still ban you for life for admitting you have consumed it here, even though it's legal.

I don't consume it really, but if I did I'd never pay for it online with a CC processor or anything that goes through an American data centre. The US is way too crazy about this stuff, and an overzealous border control agent armed with information he shouldn't have can ruin your whole day/week/life.

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Post by LoveMortuus »

wallaBBB wrote: post #370
jcims wrote: post #236

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Every fan of physics is recommended to look up bollard test videos.

And one of the best Twitter accounts: https://twitter.com/WorldBollard

This is amazing, made me laugh out loud, have to be careful though, as I'm currently in the office. :D
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