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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

LukaszWiktor wrote: post #656
cflewis wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gemini is Latin, my guess is it more easily translates to other languages than Bard.

Who translates product names?

"How does that translate to ..." means "how well does that work in" some other area or context; more analogous to a mathematical translation than a linguistic translation.

Just a confusing turn of phrase. They almost certainly didn't mean "what does that translate to ..." in another language.

Harmonising product names across regions is hard: Jif was a bathroom cleaning solution in the UK, but it's name was changed to Cif to match the name elsewhere in Europe; and that name sounds silly to UK ears. Meanwhile GIF were always presumed to be pronounced like "gift" (a present) without the final T; but we learnt the creators preferred "Jif" which sounds silly to UK ears because it sounds like a cleaning product! (And also wasn't JIF already a file extension (JPEG Interchange Format).

Anyway ... language is hard.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by htrp »

linsomniac wrote: post #270
yellow_lead wrote: post #2

> 2 TB of storage in Photos, Gmail & Drive for you and up to 5 other people Keep in mind your files may be accidentally deleted if Google doesn't cancel this product first [1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_di... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38431743

The wording around the Gemini Ultra enable scares me: "Upgrade your Google One plan". I have a One family plan, does this upgrade remove the family part? What happens if I don't decide to keep Gemini and want to go back to my current plan, can I even do that? Google has kind of botched these sorts of upgrades in the past so I'm pretty reluctant to give it a try here.

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by jiggawatts »

alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

You say Gemini “nailed it”, but that’s just because it guessed what you were thinking, not because it knew the right answer.

For example, it’s equally valid to say that Tabitha likes small foods since cookies are small and cakes are large, and lamb is the smaller younger version of sheep — also known as mutton. Hence she likes cherries because they’re smaller… or taste better… or her uncle abused her with a pear… or whatever.

You haven’t actually asked a logic question where there is a clear and unambiguous answer that can be derived using formal methods starting from clearly stated axioms.

If you gave this question to a bunch of humans, they would give you inconsistent guesses as well — not because they’re wrong but because the question has no single right answer.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by HumblyTossed »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I think they should have named it gAIl.

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Post by kccqzy »

zooq_ai wrote: post #327
ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

All of the things you write are very good ideas. But at this point, I am quite skeptical of Google leadership to pull off these things.

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Post by gnicholas »

richardw wrote: post #703
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

And if the brand took off, I imagine you could “Bard” something as a verb but not “Gemini” it.

Perhaps they're hoping people will stick with "google it".

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by gnicholas »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #711
LukaszWiktor wrote: post #656

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who translates product names?

"How does that translate to ..." means "how well does that work in" some other area or context; more analogous to a mathematical translation than a linguistic translation. Just a confusing turn of phrase. They almost certainly didn't mean "what does that translate to ..." in another language. Harmonising product names across regions is hard: Jif was a bathroom cleaning solution in the UK, but it's name was changed to…

> Jif was a bathroom cleaning solution in the UK

One man's bathroom cleaning solution is another man's creamy peanut butter.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by thelittleone »

cwkoss wrote: post #601
jimmyl02 wrote: post #553

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like you can disable the data being used from training by turning off gemini app activity. > You can turn Gemini Apps Activity off If you don’t want future conversations reviewed or used to improve machine-learning models, turn off Gemini Apps Activity Opens in a new window .

There's a thing that says even with activity off, they retain for 72 hours for "safety and reliability"

Could they get around this by moving the data to another party? So "they" (Google) no longer retain it?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by tomjakubowski »

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #663
TillE wrote: post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

To me, bard just sounds phonetically gross. Reminds me of “fart” or “beard.” It calls to mind medieval stuff: the Monte Python mud scene, Skyrim’s most annoying NPCs, plucking lutes. But Gemini? That sounds like a legendary space mission; this collective engineering push against the boundaries of human knowledge. I do not have refined tastes. My b.

Trying saying it non-rhotically, like a British television presenter
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