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Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

wil421 wrote: post #710
0xcafecafe wrote: post #701

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That screen is seriously distracting and the worst thing is you have to look at it even to check your speed. There is absolutely 0 information displayed behind the steering wheel. I always wonder how did this get approved.

The speed is within your view in the top right corner of the big screen. It’s not as bad as people make it out to be. I thought the lack of stalks and a center screen was going to be an issue. Now I feel like it’s overblown and YouTubers/the media need something to complain about.

I am not a youtuber or the media. I was seriously thinking about buying a model y late last year so borrowed a model 3 and a y from friends to test it out. I found it distracting TBH.

Not to mention the suspension issues (google "tesla whompy wheels"). After reading that junked the idea of buying it.

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Post by serial_dev »

loceng wrote: post #705
yyyfb wrote: post #685

I rented a Tesla on a recent trip lasting a few days, and I feel there are other reasons for which is a bad rental car than charging. I've rented a lot of cars, but when I got this one I spent ten minutes completely dumbfounded trying to get it going. They gave me a key card but I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Swipe it, I guess, but where? I tried the door, but the pillar? Would've never guessed until looki…

Sounds like a customer service issue, as a starter. In a long running business where "things just work" - due heavily as you point out to existing standards in product design, I can see the problems you ran into being an area that eventually starts to get overlooked at a large company; or perhaps there were people down the line who were pointing out this problem but no one at senior enough level with decision making…

My theory is that at a company that has a reputation of "disrupting the business" and being innovators, it's not easy to raise your concerns and tell everyone that maybe not all conventions are stupid, or even if they are, they are still conventions that the end users rely on for being able to interact with the car (change mirror, open the doors, change AC).

You either raise a stink about not following conventions and risk being fired immediately or sidelined forever, or you play along and the company finds out 5-10 years later that these decisions were really bad and it's not only YouTubers who hate the new designs. From a risk-reward point of view, I can see how employees decided that it's not worth it.

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by neoberg »

yyyfb wrote: post #685

I rented a Tesla on a recent trip lasting a few days, and I feel there are other reasons for which is a bad rental car than charging. I've rented a lot of cars, but when I got this one I spent ten minutes completely dumbfounded trying to get it going. They gave me a key card but I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Swipe it, I guess, but where? I tried the door, but the pillar? Would've never guessed until looki…

Where I live, there is a car sharing app which also offers Teslas. Each time I take a Tesla, I spend 5-10 minutes to set the basic stuff (seat, mirrors, steering wheel). And I know how to use a Tesla and their interfaces.

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Post by absoluteharam »

fkkffdddd wrote: post #703
0xcafecafe wrote: post #701

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That screen is seriously distracting and the worst thing is you have to look at it even to check your speed. There is absolutely 0 information displayed behind the steering wheel. I always wonder how did this get approved.

With all the sensors onboard, can they actually go above speed limit? [edit: never mind. they can, probably]

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Post by nsteel »

petre wrote: post #655
nsteel wrote: post #600

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Some supercharger stations can be used by non-teslas with a CCS port. And it seems there's a big move coming for more to adopt. https://www.motortrend.com/features/tesla-nacs-charging-port... Edit Although I should add, even if they work, they may not support the full power charging. My Kia works, but nowhere near 250kWh.

Yes, that's why most of the other brands have announced the will use the Tesla port, to be able to use their charging network. There are still issues with that approach because all Teslas have their charging port on the back left side and their Supercharger cable is quite short, while other cars do not necessarily maintain this. Also they might not charge at full power. It's still a better solution than the half asse…

> their Supercharger cable is quite short

It really is! My port is on the front centre and depending on how others have parked, it's quite tricky to get the angle required to be close enough.

But these are just niggles. We absolutely need standard hardware.

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Post by lallysingh »

yyyfb wrote: post #685

I rented a Tesla on a recent trip lasting a few days, and I feel there are other reasons for which is a bad rental car than charging. I've rented a lot of cars, but when I got this one I spent ten minutes completely dumbfounded trying to get it going. They gave me a key card but I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Swipe it, I guess, but where? I tried the door, but the pillar? Would've never guessed until looki…

You'd think they could give you a pamphlet with the key to cover the basics.

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Post by iruoy »

malfist wrote: post #635
masklinn wrote: post #560

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To me battery swapping makes no sense for consumer cars unless it’s used to significantly increase prices (possibly by removing home charging as well): battery swapping requires a ton more maintenance, space, infrastructure, and logistics, constrains vehicles enormously, and requires a very small number of standard battery formats.

Battery swapping is also not very accessible, not evening can lift 50+ pounds

NIO now has 9 battery swap locations in The Netherlands. I'm not sure this is better than charging points, but at least we'll get some data on it. Tom Scott has made a video[1] about it.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZy603as5w

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Post by bigshot »

computershit wrote: post #498
kbos87 wrote: post #487

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I'm sorry that happened to you. I can say that having an EV in a place you know and as part of a familiar routine is a very different experience.

As long as you live where you can place your own charger. I've ridden with countless Uber drivers who rent EVs from Uber whose experience would disagree with such a blanket statement.

Uber drivers are not representational of all drivers

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Post by [deleted] »

0xcafecafe wrote: post #701
yyyfb wrote: post #685

I rented a Tesla on a recent trip lasting a few days, and I feel there are other reasons for which is a bad rental car than charging. I've rented a lot of cars, but when I got this one I spent ten minutes completely dumbfounded trying to get it going. They gave me a key card but I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Swipe it, I guess, but where? I tried the door, but the pillar? Would've never guessed until looki…

That screen is seriously distracting and the worst thing is you have to look at it even to check your speed. There is absolutely 0 information displayed behind the steering wheel. I always wonder how did this get approved.

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