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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by blitzar »

sensanaty wrote: post #620
eclectic29 wrote: post #196

The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sam and his other ultra-rich buddies like Satya had their fingers deep in the pockets of all the tech journalists that immediately ran to his defense and sensationalized everything. Every single news source posted on HN read like pure shilling for the Ponzi sch- uh, I mean Worldcoin guy and hailing him as some sort of AI savant.

Let me offer up a secret from the inside. You dont in any way shape or form have to pay money to journalists. The can are bought and paid for through their currency - information and access.

They dont really even really shill for their patron; they thrive on the relevance of having their name in the byline for the article, or being the person who gets quote / information / propaganda from .

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by chatmasta »

huytersd wrote: post #240
intended wrote: post #203

From a business sense, Satya was excellent. He made the right calls, fast, with limited information. Things further shifted from plan a to b to… whatever this is. Despite that, MSFT still came out on top. Consider if Satya didn’t say anything. Suppose MSFT stood back and let things play out. That’s a gap for google or some competitor to make a move. To showcase their stability and long term business friendly vision.…

Satya may honestly be the CEO of the decade for what he has done with Microsoft and now this.

Meanwhile Sundar might be the worst. Where was he this weekend? Where was he the past three years while his company got beat to market on products built from its own research? He's asleep at the wheel. I'm surprised every day he remains CEO.

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Post by nomaD_ »

Hiring engineers at 900K salary & pretending to be non-profit does not work. Turns out, 97% of them wanted to make money.

Government should have banned big tech investment in AI companies a year ago. If they want, they can create their own AI but buying one should be off the table.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by chatmasta »

ozgung wrote: post #519
halfjoking wrote: post #115

Still think this was CIA operation to get OpenAI in hands of US government and big tech. Former Secretary, SalesForce CEO who was board chair of Twitter when infiltrated with FBI [1] and the fall-guy for the coup is the new board? Not one person from the actual company - not even Greg who did nothing wrong??? [1] - https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247/status/16340211499976867... The two think-tank women who made all t…

I am glad someone said that. Among the endless theories this obvious aspect was interestingly missing. Maybe it's because of the culture in SV/HN where people and companies feel secure and isolated from the politics (maybe that is the reason SV is unique in the world). But in my world something like AGI+Saudi Arabia is a matter of international politics and multiple governments would involve. AGI will be an important…

I could buy this theory, but it's worth noting that if it's true, their coup appears to have failed. So that's score one for the naive tech bros, score zero for the conniving natsec sociopaths.

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Post by iteratethis »

eclectic29 wrote: post #196

The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.

Apparently he has a massive role in VC, and since this community, tech twitter, etc. all circle around that, he is unconditionally praised.

Further, the current tech wave is all about AI, where there's a massive community of basically "OpenAI wrapper" grifters trying to ride the wave.

The shorter answer is: money.

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Post by Perz1val »

sensanaty wrote: post #620
eclectic29 wrote: post #196

The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sam and his other ultra-rich buddies like Satya had their fingers deep in the pockets of all the tech journalists that immediately ran to his defense and sensationalized everything. Every single news source posted on HN read like pure shilling for the Ponzi sch- uh, I mean Worldcoin guy and hailing him as some sort of AI savant.

Maybe they feel really insecure when the "News Writing Themselves AI" company got unstable...

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by iteratethis »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #603
eclectic29 wrote: post #196

The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.

Altman seems to be a extraordinary leader, motivator, and strategizer. This itself is clear by the fact that 90% of the company was willing to walk out over his retention. Just think about that for minute.

Please stop. No employee is loyal to any CEO based on some higher order matter. They just want to get their big pay day and will follow whoever makes that possible.

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

laserlight wrote: post #236

With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.

The board can still fire sam provided they get all the key stakeholders onboard with that firing. It made no sense to fire someone doing a good job at their role without any justification, that seems to have been the key issue. Ultimately, we all know this non profit thing is for show and will never work out.

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Post by Cacti »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #450
Satam wrote: post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

> Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there’s clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI’s employees either. Very harsh words for some of the highest paid smartest people on the planet. The employees built GPT-4 the most advanced AI on the planet, what did you build? Do you still claim they’re more deficient in critical thinking compared to you.

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