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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by Eduard »

steveklabnik wrote: post #312
dustingetz wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

way better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that

Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.

"no cables no assembly just cloud" is completely misleading to any kind of people - tech or marketing or not.

When people hear cloud, it means that aspects such as electricity costs, electricity stability, Internet, bandwidth, fire protection, safety, etc etc are abstracted away.

Oxide IS on-premise, right? The website is very vague and wishy-washy.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by nickik »

Animats wrote: post #706

"Everyone at Oxide makes $201,227 USD, regardless of location."[1] Do they actually assemble and build their own racks of hardware, or is that outsourced? Somewhere, there must be an assembly plant. If this stuff actually exists. It's hard to even find pictures of their products. Do they have production installations? [1] https://oxide.computer/careers

Manufacturing is done by Benchmark in Raleigh, NC. Its outsourced.

First rack shipped to costumer Jul 1, 2023: https://twitter.com/oxidecomputer/status/1674901883130114048

Here is a picture an incomplete rack: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfT7MHoUoAE90QZ?format=jpg&name=...

You can find other pictures on twitter and other places.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by [deleted] »

Animats wrote: post #706

"Everyone at Oxide makes $201,227 USD, regardless of location."[1] Do they actually assemble and build their own racks of hardware, or is that outsourced? Somewhere, there must be an assembly plant. If this stuff actually exists. It's hard to even find pictures of their products. Do they have production installations? [1] https://oxide.computer/careers

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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by steveklabnik »

Eduard wrote: post #711
steveklabnik wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.

"no cables no assembly just cloud" is completely misleading to any kind of people - tech or marketing or not. When people hear cloud, it means that aspects such as electricity costs, electricity stability, Internet, bandwidth, fire protection, safety, etc etc are abstracted away. Oxide IS on-premise, right? The website is very vague and wishy-washy.

It is on premises. You interact with the rack the same way you interact with the public cloud: as a pool of resources. The specifics are abstracted away. “Private cloud” is pretty well established terminology in this space, and that’s what we’re doing.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by otteromkram »

I might be missing something, but I thought the whole point of cloud was to get rid of on prem setups.

If users wanted to save some money, why not just implement a hybrid cloud system?

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by steveklabnik »

otteromkram wrote: post #715

I might be missing something, but I thought the whole point of cloud was to get rid of on prem setups. If users wanted to save some money, why not just implement a hybrid cloud system?

Cloud is a deployment model. Rent be own is an ownership model. You can do all four combinations.

If you’re trying to implement a hybrid cloud solution, with part of it being on-prem, you would be in the market for hardware that to use in that implementation. We are now vendors of such.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by otteromkram »

TrueDuality wrote: post #85

I'd like to add that their open source code is also EXTREMELY high quality. If you're an embedded developer go take a look at Hubris and Humility. I ended up using those to GREAT effect for this custom one-off aerospace device and it was a fantastic experience to integrate with. Definitely a change from what I was used to that took a bit of getting used to.

Is that the same extremely high-quality open-source code that currently has a failing build?

https://github.com/oxidecomputer/hubris

And, that one underscore-delimited folder name in this repo just catches the eye, huh?

https://github.com/oxidecomputer/humility

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by choppaface »

Animats wrote: post #706

"Everyone at Oxide makes $201,227 USD, regardless of location."[1] Do they actually assemble and build their own racks of hardware, or is that outsourced? Somewhere, there must be an assembly plant. If this stuff actually exists. It's hard to even find pictures of their products. Do they have production installations? [1] https://oxide.computer/careers

That comp number is apparently as-of 2021 and it was explained in a post by the CTO https://oxide.computer/blog/compensation-as-a-reflection-of-...

Certainly odd but not out of the ordinary for a small Bay Area start-up where the Founders have a ton of cash and the focus is mostly on what they personally want to do. Posts like these are b/c the Founders want to hire 1-3 people who fit exactly into alignment with them.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by steveklabnik »

mkoubaa wrote: post #675

To people who agree with the stated premise: "Cloud computing is the future of all computing infrastructure" Do you think people want to design games with unreal engine on the cloud? Is there no desktop application that's safe? I don't fully accept this premise and I wonder if I'm the crazy one sometimes.

Game development and desktop applications aren’t infrastructure.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by la64710 »

monocasa wrote: post #281
la64710 wrote: post #279

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On site backup inventory DC build out cost and effort Power cooling requirements Dark fiber bandwidth requirement New headcount to support all this No thanks , I have widgets to make and sell and a business to run.

It's meant for orgs running at a certain scale, but you'd be surprised how early that starts making sense. AWS isn't exactly paying the economy of scale savings on to you.

True but at for companies operating at scale they not only operate on AWS but on other cloud providers as well as legacy data centers … but business wise it’s a hard sell , it may sell for couple of cycles to build a new dc or use an existing ones but then it will be back to the cloud again for many more cycles.
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