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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by MikusR »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #575
jancsika wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Name three, please, with emphasis on the "considerably more powerful" part.

Sure...but it might take me a while...how about this, I'll name...as of current, 385 under $100 all with free shipping: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=mini%20pc&_sa... The Pi5 is slower than a Core i3 6100, does not support upgradable ram, does not support Pci Gen 3 let alone Gen 3 x16, no actual Sata 6, no upgradable sockets, etc. There are a TON of uses cases for a Pi 5...but only really if power co…

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by dmitrygr »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #653
dmitrygr wrote: post #613

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Well, now that the latest rPi is on the latest ARM arch, it might be possible for future rPis, unless ARM goes and changes the arch around in an incompatible way.

That's beside the point; you can build a UEFI bootloader for at least as far back as the Pi 3, but you have to stick it on an SD card because there's no on-board memory to hold it. I mostly just want enough flash built in to hold it.

rPI is quite cost optimized. That’s one of the stated goals. An extra component to buy and place on the board costs read money. Plus, an implementation of UEFI will not be tiny. It would likely would need a few MBytes of flash. That's a dollar or two already. If everybody’s requests, each of which would add a dollar or two to the board, were fulfilled, you’d be looking at a much more expensive board, and complaining about cost instead. :)

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by reedlaw »

raytopia wrote: post #684

I've had this idea for a while now but what if someone built a game console based on the Pi hardware? I know lots of people use their pi's for retro gaming but I'd really like to see some new games made for the hardware. Does anyone know if there's a group working on this or would be interested in creating one?

It would likely be similar to gaming on Linux but with the limitations of ARM-only and OpenGL ES 3.1 or Vulkan 1.2. [1]

What would be more interesting is an open source micro-kernel and gaming SDK targeting Raspberry Pi.

1. See https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Linux_ARM_games

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by fanf2 »

lonjil wrote: post #694
fanf2 wrote: post #558

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The RP1 has two Cortex M3 cores and a PIO core, and is responsible for the GPIO pins. So I think it already has something close to what you want.

I can't find anything about the RP1 online, do you have a source?

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/...

There are a good few nuggets of gold from Raspberry Pi engineers in the comments on the announcement blog post

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by nmz »

stkdump wrote: post #143

No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…

Not to mention it now requires a new PSU. Before you could use your standard $5 (android) phone charger at (5W), then you had to buy a 15W one and now a 27W.

To whoever thinks pi's are cheap, you can get more functionality out of a used laptop for less money, but probably worse specs and probably x86.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Narishma »

raytopia wrote: post #684

I've had this idea for a while now but what if someone built a game console based on the Pi hardware? I know lots of people use their pi's for retro gaming but I'd really like to see some new games made for the hardware. Does anyone know if there's a group working on this or would be interested in creating one?

I feel like the GPU on the Pi is pretty weak. It was fine in the first model, but they haven't improved it much in subsequent versions compared to the CPU.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by bmicraft »

marcosdumay wrote: post #695
filleokus wrote: post #257

Hmm. I'm disappointed honestly, I was looking forward to USB-C with display port and "normal" USB-C power. Is there any reasonable option with software support that comes even close to what RPI offers? I don't want an SBC where I have to use some strange back ported, super old, kernel with little to no chance of getting updates. Maybe I should just go for an X86 board? Lattepanda Delta, or Khadas Mind whenever that's…

> "normal" USB-C power I have no idea what kind of USB-C PSU one can call "normal", but allowing higher voltages would be really good.

"Normal" would be a voltage-current combination, that isn't likely to lead to 10% lost energy just in the cable and connectors alone.

12V @ 2.25A would have been much more sensible: With a 100mΩ cable you'd lose 1.8% instead of 10%

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by voytec »

stkdump wrote: post #143

No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…

> No word on price.

They link to multiple regional reseller sites [0], where prices are available. I see €73.90 (€60.08 pre-tax) for the 4GB version and €97.50 (€79.27 pre-tax) for 8GB in Poland.

[0] https://www.raspberrypi.com/resellers/

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by garaetjjte »

spacechild1 wrote: post #654
nfriedly wrote: post #568

Damn, even Raspberry Pi removed the headphones jack!

To be fair, the analog output of the RPi delivers a crappy low-pass filtered 11-bit PWM signal. Even the cheapest USB audio adapter will give you a better signal. (Personally, I have been quite happy with https://www.pollin.at/p/logilink-usb-2-0-5-1-audiocontroller... )

They implemented sigma-delta driver on VPU few years back: https://forums.raspberrypi.com//viewtopic.php?f=29&t=195178
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