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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by rsynnott »

afavour wrote: post #234
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great

I mean, it's extremely clear that current Twitter leadership doesn't understand that either. They're not competing with Twitter at its prime (or at least its peak influence; personally I preferred it when it was a lot smaller in the early 10s) from a few years ago; they're competing with a website that just went completely dark to the public internet and appears to be barely usable even if you're logged in.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by PossiblyKyle »

Vinnl wrote: post #706
erremerre wrote: post #702

My question is, after the twitter fiasco, there is a number of competitors, like skyblue or this threads that have been created to remplace it (I dont count Mastodon, because it was not created to remplaced, but as an open alternative). Why absolutely no big company (MS, facebook, google, amazon, etc...) is attempting the same with Reddit? Not even discord has done any single change to try to steal any userbase from…

Facebook Groups competes with Reddit, I think.

It is, and it’s even more popular than reddit in my local communities. The problem is the lack of anonymity

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by erremerre »

Vinnl wrote: post #706
erremerre wrote: post #702

My question is, after the twitter fiasco, there is a number of competitors, like skyblue or this threads that have been created to remplace it (I dont count Mastodon, because it was not created to remplaced, but as an open alternative). Why absolutely no big company (MS, facebook, google, amazon, etc...) is attempting the same with Reddit? Not even discord has done any single change to try to steal any userbase from…

Facebook Groups competes with Reddit, I think.

Kind of, but you need to identify yourself with a facebook account that is linked to your name. Probably not the best idea if you are trying to form a community like r/piracy or r/watches where you could remain unidentified

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by cowsandmilk »

geokon wrote: post #666
bertil wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a text-based app, which dramatically changes expectations. Instagram Stories was, like Instagram, photos and videos. That allows consistency in how things work (not that it does in practice because some gestures were based on shared expectations with Facebook Stories, others with TikTok or Snapchat, but… you get it). Facebook designers have suffered quite a bit from dealing with very inconsistent media format: c…

Do you have any thoughts on why they attached to the IG graph and not the FB graph? Maybe I'm in a bubble, IG seems very low text, low drama, low politics. Not very Twitter-y

My guess is that facebook’s real name policy wouldn’t go well with this product

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by devnullbrain »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #695
hrisng wrote: post #691

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Why? I would love for the general public to be able to connect to Fediverse. I don't love Meta per se, but let be real here, the majority of people are not gonna sign up for random instances that run by someone they don' know, to interact with a very small and niche subset of people, with a risk of it being shut down by that said person due to whatever personal circumstances they may have. It's the biggest obstacles…

Embrace, Extend and Extinguish fears seem like a good reason

So does this mean independent email providers should block GMail?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by rcme »

coolandsmartrr wrote: post #130

Reminds me of how Instagram absorbed Snapchat usecases with stories. Instagram tackled the competition for ephemeral stories simply by implementing Stories as a feature. This time, Threads is a fully fledged app. Getting users to adopt a new app might take as much time as getting Messenger installed. Still, Instagram has a robust social graph to lead users towards downloading it. In fact, they seem to have already on…

It's funny that there is a narrative that Instagram killed Snapchat with their stories feature. Snapchat still has something like 383M DAU. That's a massive user base. Instagram Stories definitely blunted Snap's growth, especially with millennials and older.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by erremerre »

PossiblyKyle wrote: post #712
Vinnl wrote: post #706

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook Groups competes with Reddit, I think.

It is, and it’s even more popular than reddit in my local communities. The problem is the lack of anonymity

Do you mind to prove some example of communities popular? Sorry but I haven't had facebook since 2016 and I literally have no idea what is going on with it.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by cowsandmilk »

john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

> Someone pointed out in comments that Feed & Like as a concept was also based out of an acquisition called FriendFeed

Nonsense. Facebook added the news feed in 2006. FriendFeed was founded in 2007. Facebook acqui-hired them for employees, in particular to hire Bret Taylor as CTO, nothing else.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by tharax »

schultzie wrote: post #398
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

> Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. For what it's worth, their cryptocurrency project is absolutely NOT gone. It's gone in the Facebook-ownership sense (in that it was barred from continuing the project by the SEC (?)), but the code and teams are absolutely still iterating on what began at Facebook. Aptos, Sui, and 0L are all projects that have launched to fanfare within the last yea…

I think a government blocking a project from existing is by definition a failure.

And it also shows that cryptocurrency projects will always be at the mercy of the whims of government(s).

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by black3r »

rayxi271828 wrote: post #153
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I hope Threads won't exhibit the same hostility towards the users as IG does. (What's up with IG and its hostile UX? Videos can't be fast forwarded or tracked at all, profile pictures can't be zoomed, clicking on it brings you to stories, images can't be copied easily, etc.)

the worst user hostility is that you can't browse it while not logged in (which was also introduced to twitter recently)
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