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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Knowing that life may be common is a lot different than knowing that intelligence is.

Yes, but the universe is so mind mindbogglingly vast. So many galaxies and so many stars! It just doesn't seem right that what happened here didn't happen somewhere else.

We’ve addressed this before. It’s the Fermi equation

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Just look at the history of alien / UFO sightings. It all began at the beginning of WW2 and the Cold War. It is my humble opinion all just a psychological operation. Some benefits that a government would have doing such a thing would be: Division, misdirection of MSM and population, other news that is very important is intentionally being sandbagged. Fear, Hysteria, & Confusion allows further tightening of control of…

They're in old art: https://listverse.com/2016/04/24/10-historic-divine-painting...

The very first example is a religious painting that has nothing to do with aliens

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Sounds like Grusch is upstanding, but I suspect he's been trolled by the rest of them. You can just imagine; "hey Eagle, the UFO guy's coming to ask about that UAP report, you know, the one where the IR tracker locked-on to a speck of dust. Let's mention the (nudge, hehe) black-ops alien testing site we saw when we went to file the report"

You don't troll someone to the point of letting them go testify under oath to the IG.

It also seems like you’d need to troll someone extraordinarily thoroughly for them to have enough material to testify to congress for hours. Even assuming ET is the least likely explanation, it’s at least very curious what else could have resulted in the testimony described in the article.

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I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

You are missing the complaint he filed because he was a victim of retaliation. This is first hand evidence that the inspector general of the intelligence community found credible and urgent, and the main point of the story.

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I do. If it were possible we'd surely see them everywhere. Even if time travel was a one-way trip there's enough future billions of us that there'd be massive numbers with the sort of incurable fascination seth the past that they'd be motivated to travel back and see what it was like. Doesn't really seem any more or less likely than alien intelligence at any rate.

Time traveling humans is more likely for the following reason: It requires only one thing: worm hole or some other yet-to-be-invented mechanism for traveling to the past. For this to be alien intelligence, two things are required: First alien intelligence has to exist, and second, they too need a mechanism for speedy travel, to travel to another galaxy such that they can reach the destination within an individual ali…

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Can someone explain to me how a species that can do one of the following can also do something as mundane as…crash? 1. Travel faster than light 2. Sustain a peaceful, productive, spacefaring civilization over millions of years to travel here 3. Create AI that can do 1 or 2 Am I missing something here? How can both of these facts be plausibly true? These are genuine questions, not snark.

Humans crash probes into interstellar bodies all the time. “Wreckage” could be fragments of some unmanned craft, like a von neumann probe, creators unknowably many light years away and maybe long dead.

Interesting to consider how that revelation might change life very little overall.

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Perhaps people simply aren't prepared to accept the implications of the government lying about this - as well as successfully covering it up - for so long. It's a big impact to a persons world view.

It's trivially easy to keep covering something up, even with information leaks, if the vast majority of the public disbelieves the entire premise from the get-go.

If there are alien craft flying in a manner even remotely alleged by most UFO people, then we as a civilization are dead. D-E-A-D. Our best hope is compliant slaves or an interesting zoo.

Because it implies essentially effortless arbitrary military and economic exploitation access to our planet. Craft that defy gravity, instantly accelerate in arbitrary directions? Presumably cross light years of distance? They could drop an asteroid on us at will. They could bring our civilization to its knees with simple smart rocks.

Sufficiently advanced technology is magic, and this would indicate that level of advanced technology that we find magical.

Either the civilization is rapacious, or, if they aren't, they will take one look at our history books and realize that we are rapacious.

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step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

I agree. I mean lets assume it is true: how could the US government have failed a real alien ship? Did the poor aliens fail at filling out some paperwork? I mean this ship had to spend so much energy just to get to us, what else could have failed them?

They didn't fill their ESTA. Dura lex sed lex
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