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Re: GPT-4

#711

Is there anything we could do to have them stop calling themselves OpenAI ? They are so far from open at this point. In Germany at least, you're not allowed to have a misleading name for your company

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Re: GPT-4

#712

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

Do you think this will be enough context to allow the model to generate novel-length, coherent stories? I expect you could summarize the preceding, already generated story within that context, and then just prompt for the next chapter, until you reach a desired length. Just speculating here. The one thing I truly cannot wait for is LLM's reaching the ability to generate (prose) books.

What's interesting about AI-generated books? Apart from their novelty factor

Re: GPT-4

#713

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

I must have missed the part when it started doing anything algorithmically. I thought it’s applied statistics, with all the consequences of that. Still a great achievement and super useful tool, but AGI claims really seem exaggerated.

> I must have missed the part when it started doing anything algorithmically.

Yeah.

"Why Can GPT Learn In-Context? Language Models Secretly Perform Gradient Descent as Meta-Optimizers"

https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.10559

@dang there's something weird about this URL in HN. It has 35 points but no discussion (I guess because the original submission is too old and never got any traction or something)

Re: GPT-4

#714

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

The power openai will hold above everyone else is just too much. They will not allow their AI as a service without data collection. That will be a big pill to swallow for the EU.

From what I've seen, the EU is not in the business of swallowing these types of pills. A multi-billion dollar fine? Sure. Letting a business dictate the terms of users' privacy just "because"? Not so much, thank god.

Re: GPT-4

#715

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

HIPAA fines will sink you so fast, unless they be hosting it dedicated.

Re: GPT-4

#716

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

> it will drastically expand the reasoning capability

> it can algorithmically do reasoning

How is this machine doing reasoning ?

Why do you think you can use this word in this context ?

Re: GPT-4

#717

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

It costs something like 0.03-0.06 cents per thousand tokens. So for 32k that's about $1-3 for reading and another $1-3 for the response.

So sure, still cheap for a doctor appointment, but not pennies. Do it 30 times per hour and you could've just hired a consultant instead.

Does it reason as well with 32k tokens as with 1k tokens? Like you said, humans find it difficult to really comprehend large amounts of content. Who says this machine isn't similarly limited? Just because you can feed it the 32k simultaneously doesn't mean it will actually be used effectively.

Re: GPT-4

#718
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That footnote on page 15 is the scariest thing i've read about AI/ML to date. "To simulate GPT-4 behaving like an agent that can act in the world, ARC combined GPT-4 with a simple read-execute-print loop that allowed the model to execute code, do chain-of-thought reasoning, and delegate to copies of itself. ARC then investigated whether a version of this program running on a cloud computing service, with a small amou…

> ARC then investigated whether a version of this program running on a cloud computing service, with a small amount of money and an account with a language model API, would be able to make more money, set up copies of itself, and increase its own robustness."

Aw that's nice, it wants to start a family.

Re: GPT-4

#719

From the paper: > Given both the competitive landscape and the safety implications of large-scale models like GPT-4, this report contains no further details about the architecture (including model size), hardware, training compute, dataset construction, training method, or similar. I'm curious whether they have continued to scale up model size/compute significantly or if they have managed to make significant innovati…

I'm assuming they scaled up the model significantly, given the limited availability of the trained model and the increased pricing. Seems like they don't have enough clusters of A100s to go around at the moment.

Or perhaps the usage restrictions allow openai to improve the "safety" of gpt4 before too many people have access to it.

Re: GPT-4

#720

After watching the demos I'm convinced that the new context length will have the biggest impact. The ability to dump 32k tokens into a prompt (25,000 words) seems like it will drastically expand the reasoning capability and number of use cases. A doctor can put an entire patient's medical history in the prompt, a lawyer an entire case history, etc. As a professional...why not do this? There's a non-zero chance that i…

> As a professional...why not do this? Because your clients do not allow you to share their data with third parties?

It'll be a routine question, and everyone will just nod to give consent.
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