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Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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Asking why Japan invaded the Aleutians is a fun question for flat earthers. On most map projections it's way out of the way but on a globe if you draw a geodesic from Tokyo to Seattle (or Sapporo to San Diego and Los Angeles) it's basically halfway.

Maybe it's like pacman where going off one edge teleports you to the opposite edge. A finite land that goes on infinitely

And to better visualize it we could just map it to a sphere...

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I heard rumors that during the bosnian war they were making fake SAM sites using microwave ovens with the door taken off. Get them to fire an air-to-ground missile at a device you got from the junkyard and an extension cord.

Microwaves transmit on a frequency nowhere near missile systems and are not modulated in any way resembling a missile fire control system, but cool story. ECM gear in US warplanes can classify a system based off its emissions and people think they're fooled by a microwave oven?

Yes, ELINT systems have been able to distinguish and classify emission signatures in high resolution for ages.

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Funny story: I was in Spain several years ago and was talking to a guy I met about sailboats. I mentioned I had a boat, and he asked how big. I thought for a second and said "7 meters" so as not to be an ignorant American. He thought for a second and said "huh, 21 feet".

I'm not sure what the situation is in other European countries, but in the UK we use different units depending on the use so most people are use to working with both imperial and metric. Perhaps with the exception of fahrenheit most people here will know what you mean if you use units like feet and will often even prefer thinking in feet over metres for certain things. Personally I default to feet for something like…

In Germany, the only things I can think of off the top of my head is bicycles(wheels) and screens, which we measure in inches instead of cm.

But I couldn't even tell you how many cm to an inch. I just know how big a 40" TV or a 28" bike is.

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I heard rumors that during the bosnian war they were making fake SAM sites using microwave ovens with the door taken off. Get them to fire an air-to-ground missile at a device you got from the junkyard and an extension cord.

Microwaves transmit on a frequency nowhere near missile systems and are not modulated in any way resembling a missile fire control system, but cool story. ECM gear in US warplanes can classify a system based off its emissions and people think they're fooled by a microwave oven?

Doesn't mean it worked. One can _attempt_ to create a decoy, especially if they have little knowledge of how radiation is transmitted into the environment. On South Park, Randy Marsh, a geologist with a Ph.D., puts his nuts in the microwave to get just enough cancer that he can qualify for medical marijuana. [0]

People often say "nuke" when referring to using a microwave.

I tried growing marijuana with CFL lights in my dorm room. When the cops showed up, I ate the biggest of the 3 plants, a few inches tall, right in front of them.

[0] https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Randy_Marsh

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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The IR signature/target profile of a balloon contraption is very different to that of a jet exhaust, for one. Far less friction heat of movement etc + no engine. Although the X is an all aspect missile, the parameters would still be quite different. I think this is would all be firmly in the "not public domain" bucket of details though, as I haven't seen much of this modelled in DCS. (I suppose they could also have u…

What is DCS?

DCS World is a multi and single player combat simulator platform for the PC made by Eagle Dynamics, which features modules such as the A-10C, F-16, F/A-18 and the F-14. The platform is free, the modules' pricing is reflective of the development work gone in to them - and requires a lot of time to learn. Great fun.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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Agreed, but the "previous balloon" part may be unnecessary. User dTal is on the same train of thought as I was regarding the "not maneuverable" part. What other type of object exists which can fly and yet does not have the ability to maneuver?

Better question: why do we allow our government to answer our questions with riddles?

My favorite of those is a former press secretary Jen Psaki tried to retort a perfectly good question from a reporter asking if the White House will send much needed coronavirus tests to American households:

"Should we just send one to every American?" Psaki shot back, her voice dripping with sarcasm. [0]

Twitter dragged her so hard it was/wasn't even funny, and the next day the White House did just that. Thanks lady!

[0] https://theintercept.com/2021/12/21/anger-jen-psaki-helped-a...

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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> Officials said the object was far smaller than the previous balloon, did not appear to be maneuverable and was traveling at a much lower altitude. "Not maneuverable" and "previous balloon" so is it fair to assume that it's a balloon as well?

Would a smaller balloon fly lower? Seems likely.

I think the main issue of an object being really high up in the air is the lack of air density which, to achieve equilibrium, will get pulled apart (think: the opposite of being smashed). It's also extremely cold.

I assume a weather balloon can handle those issues though. [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/jaUgTwKu6vs

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Americans will measure with anything except the metric system.

I read somewhere that it was traveling at about three football fields per Abraham Lincoln fart.

As a European I still don't know how their football fields compare to our football fields. I mentally assume they are the same to have a frame of comparison.

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Also maybe gives China cover/justification to start shooting down these low satellites.

That’s an escalator that China can’t afford to ride. The US would deorbit everything China ever put into space if they started shooting at satellites. Those satellites are part of the strategic triad and would be a direct threat to the US nuclear umbrella. The AEGIS systems off the Chinese coast would take care of any attempts to add satellites back into space.

There are some rumors that the ICON was shot down by the Chinese (No facts are found supporting those rumors): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionospheric_Connection_Explore...

That happened last month in November 2022. It mysteriously destroyed itself.

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I like how the measurement unit seems to be either small cars or school busses.

/s If that unit causes you any pain, @throwaway4good, here is a translator perhaps to more native units: https://www.converttobananas.com/ 1 car == about 26 bananas. Improvement?

Which car? Or you mean a ISO Standard Reference Car?

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103

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