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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

This Twitter drama is strikingly similar to Freenode. A rich guy bought it, people started moving to Libera.chat in small numbers and advertising their new channel on Freenode in the topic. There wasn't a huge exodus, though. Then this new owner started taking over channels and kicking everyone out that had mention of a Libera.chat channel in its topic, forcing everyone to move all at once. I haven't heard of anyone…

This shows the death of freenode quite clearly: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IRC_top_10_networks_...

I don't think we will get Twitter's metrics (tweets, DAU etc) but let's see how the Mastodon graphs change: https://observablehq.com/@simonw/mastodon-users-and-statuses...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#713
post #313

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

aren't they a private company anyway? To claim that they have a dominant position is very ovestated. Twitter is no bigger than reddit.

Twitter is a good deal bigger than reddit. At least pre-Elon. 200MM+ DAU vs 50MM+.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#714
post #316

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> There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those bio sites going to end up banned on Twitter too? These are already prohibited by the linked policy: “Prohibited platforms: * Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr * 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio”

Oh wow, totally missed that - bonkers.

Yeah the real killer was in the detailed policy announcement. Killing 3rd party aggregator will negatively impact content creators who never planned to leave or undermine Twitter in the first place.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#715
post #334

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Not sure he lied. I think he fooled himself into thinking that moderating a social media platform can be done on a rose-tinted ideological basis. Then reality hit, and the fact is, there are so many edge-cases that being ideologically consistent is almost impossible. Moderation is hard. And it matters, both to keep audiences & advertisers. Besides, First Amendment-based moderation is not even possible for an internat…

>Thailand & the UK have laws banning speech offensive to their royal families. The UK may technically have some old law on the books stating this but it's never enforced. I mean, the Sex Pistols ("God save the queen... A fascist regime...") demonstrated this quite convincingly. I did hear about someone getting arrested for yelling at Prince Andrew in a funeral procession, but that was for breach of the peace during a…

The UK royal family has pretty wide control over what can and cannot be said about them in the media.

There is for instance, many stories about royal improprieties that have been covered up in recent years, in exchange for “juicy” Harry & Meghan stories being circulated in their place. This is probably at the core of the schism within the royal family. I can read about it, because I’m not in the UK. Bet it’s not very well covered in the UK though.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#716
Direct violation of the EU Digital Markets Act

Which explicitly requires "gatekeeper platforms" (like Twitter) to allow linking to other businesses.

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-...

Violation is a fine up to 10% of annual revenue, then 20% for repeated infringements.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#717
post #567

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Very interesting, thank you. To what degree is it decentralized?

Recommended by Jack too: https://nitter.it/jack/status/1603945963944480768

im getting a tweet not found. was that tweet from jack deleted?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#718

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Twitter is under a consent decree by the FTC related to user privacy, not market competition.

True, but that means that they are not too insignificant to be regulated.

You can browse all the companies that the FTC has consent decrees with. You don’t have to be large. The existence of a consent decree says nothing about their market position.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#719

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Yes they are and they explicitly say as much: > we will remove any free promotion of prohibited 3rd-party social media platforms, such as linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter Your quote is referring to cross-posting from other sites to Twitter, not linking.

Still, the way this is drafted I don't interpret it as banning every single type of links but rather promotion of your profile of your content on another platform. It's not as explicit to me as you suggest. I guess we shall see soon enough.

Given that pg's Twitter profile's just been banned for indirectly referencing his Mastodon profile link on his own website, your assertions lack any credibility or plausibility whatsoever.

https://archive.vn/ucUdh>

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34041985>

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#720

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Last I knew the debt is now owned by twitter, not Elon/against Tesla stock. THAT is why the debtors are pissed right now, that $13 billion is sinking hard.

Investment banks financed a portion of the deal which they could then sell to investors. They are the ones bagholding. Twitter’s debt owned by twitter makes no sense.

It is a leveraged buyout. Toys'r'us was killed by one because all the debt of buying the company was dumped on the company.
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