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Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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> Musk hasn’t said all that much since the takeover on Twitter, but he has replied to a couple of users who have complained about platform censorship in the past. One is a user called “catturd2” who claims he’s shadowbanned and who tweets COVID misinformation among other things. The other is Canada Proud, a right-wing propagandist group that also spreads COVID misinfo and focuses on attacking Canadian PM Justin Trude…

I don't think it's a secret that Musk has been cosying up to the Trump right for a while now. It's only a nasty comment if you find those individuals deplorable, and Musk clearly doesn't.

Trump will never entirely forgive people like Musk who left his advisory committee(s).

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I‘ve been an Elon fanboy since pre-Falcon 1 times and all the time I could simply follow his first principles to the core, be it the switch to electric cars, flight control using a quorum cluster of non-space-rated processors or the viability of methane and stainless steel for Starship against all previous failures.

With Twitter, I‘ve lost that feeling and I don‘t know how it would be possible: Free speech, happy advertisers, satisfied governments globally, increasing or just persisting audience. There‘s just no way he will keep all those targets at the same time.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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In the spirit of trying to be high-information and add value: Where Musk is going, there are no maps. So it's very very hard to project. But we can predict likely developments. At a very high level, it's going to involve: bringing back controversial personalities like Donald Trump; increasing Twitter's commitment to 'free speech'; assuaging skittish advertisers; retaining users who might be concerned, while bringing…

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Twitter’s already headed down the uncool social media curve like Facebook before it. There will be an exodus, but it would have happened either way.

Once the parents get on, it starts the decline. When the grandparents are there…

The “political” polarization is part of it. The older folks bring it with them. The majority flock to sites for information and escapism. The back and forth is just exhausting.

It’s clearer for geek sites. Slashdot died when it got corporate and the content went to crap. Digg was the same. Reddit’s in process except niches. It’ll be same here.

For everything there is a season.

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They need to stop ruining the experience for those of us without an account. Everyone was using Twitter as basically an open bulletin board and then they go and make it visitor-hostile. I look at ads either way.

I have an account and every time I hit that signup/in wall I just close the page rather than sign into my account

This is literally THE reason I don’t use twitter. Somehow my 2FA is associated with an old phone number and I’ve tried once or twice to fix but… bleh, at least let me read.

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Every one of us has run into situations where choosing to be honest has materially cost us. You accidentally scratch a parked car on your way out. Do you stop and leave a note with contact info or not? The richer you are, the more leverage you have and larger the material cost for these situations. A fellow rich friend gives you a little insider info that a stock you hold is about to crater. Do you sell some? In othe…

This is a really insightful comments right up to "Given that".

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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Well, speaking in those terms, I think the thing to watch will in fact be censorship. Elon is extremely idealistic, so it will be fascinating to watch him melt down when confronted with the reality of how complex free speech and censorship issues really are. I predict that he will succeed in turning Twitter into the rightwing safehaven that "Truth" Social, Parlor, etc have all been trying to become. He's making a dea…

> I predict that he will succeed in turning Twitter into the rightwing safehaven that "Truth" Social, Parlor, etc have all been trying to become. I actually don't think so, I think this was bluster, or if they are safe haven it will be safe in the way that a subreddit is safe. You can freely talk amongst eachother but that content won't be promoted to people who don't want to see it. I mean this was his latest tweet:…

  My prediction is he ends up growing twitter into a fairly bland chat/communications app/social network, and the focus on global political and social debates slowly weans over time.
So far Musk's brought back a very high profile antisemite (Ye) and a bunch of others took the hint to return to Twitter. I'm pretty sure bland isn't the right word.

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Racist-tweets-quickl...

  "Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K---S AND N-----S," said
  one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. "I can freely express how
  much I hate n-----s . . . now, thank you elon," another said.

  Some of the Twitter influx was organized on other platforms, including the pro-Trump
  forum TheDonald, where its top posts Friday morning showed tweets celebrating lies
  about Trump's 2020 election loss and memes criticizing transgender people under the
  headline "When you can't get banned on Twitter anymore."
My prediction is Musk flails about, burns a pile of money, and decimates any goodwill his associated companies (e.g. SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink) currently have.

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I always find it strange when he positions himself as pro-democratic and pro-freedom when his actions say pretty much the opposite: He is pushing for a political system/values which: - doubles down on money == power, to a point where only money is power - uses pretext of "freedom" to remove protections which limit in how much companies can abuse people, mainly in forms which move money from them to the companies. But…

> doubles down on money power, to a point where only money is power What has he said or done that indicates he is pushing for such a system? Are you suggesting the mere fact of his purchasing a company and being a billionaire means he is pushing for such a system or was there something else he said or did? I'm asking genuinely because I may very well have missed some important news item or other piece of information.…

Looks like you were downvoted ... no response. You know what that means.

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> cutting a large amount of staff I wonder if he needs to do this. Maybe I've just been working for tech companies in the Bay Area too long. But I don't want to work for a company where I don't have equity that I can cash out. And now all those engineers are working for a company where equity doesn't exist? An exception could be a Netflix model where you make a buttload of money. But Twitter isn't that.

It isn't that yet, presumably.

Guess it remains to be seen if they can make up for the lack of public equity with cash or if the cash will be tied up in loan repayments.

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> his goal is the Everything App (which he calls X). The Everything App has news, social media, games, videos, and a payment infrastructure so, WeChat?

WeChat for Anglosphere/the West could be a great innovation, to be fair. WeChat in China, LINE in Japan, Gojek in Indonesia... A lot of those platforms are crazy profitable

The platform may be innovative, but monopolizing attention is horrible for future innovation.
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