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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by vlunkr »

newaccount74 wrote: post #636
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I think Spotify is getting onto thin ice. I subscribed to Spotify because I want to stream music, and I like that the bands I listen to get a bit of money. But when I hear that they are paying $100M to some controversial US podcaster (before Neil Young left Spotify I have never heard of Joe Rogan), I'm thinking, this isn't what I signed up for. I want my money to go towards German indie bands, not rich American celeb…

I don't think they're on thin ice. Remember when people were boycotting Netflix over Cuties? Their stock prices recovered and everyone forgot. People have also boycotted YouTube or pulled their ads. These things just blow over.

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Post by judge2020 »

pyuser583 wrote: post #616
hnarn wrote: post #466

I don't really understand why anyone who claims to be a proponent of a free market economy has an issue with a private corporation deciding what type of content they want to broadcast. JR sold his catalog of intellectual property (podcast episodes) of his own free will and was paid very well for it: about $100M from what I can gather. What Spotify chooses to do with it is completely up to them, even if they bought it…

Part of a free market economy is criticizing, and not patronizing, products you don’t like. I’m welcome to say Spotify shouldn’t “censor” (in the corporate media sense) certain speakers. And I can cancel/encourage others to cancel their Spotify subscriptions. And I can keep on using Spotify, but let them know I don’t like their conduct, even though it doesn’t (YET!) make me unsubscribe. All free market.

Similarly, Spotify can choose to censor speakers if they think people will come back to Spotify/won't leave Spotify as a result of that action. Spotify should definitely censor whatever they need to in the pursuit of maximum profits.

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Post by zo1 »

misiti3780 wrote: post #518
digitcatphd wrote: post #470

I fail to see how anyone can seriously listen to Joe Rogan. He has a circus of quacks and conspiracy theorists on the show and when he does occasionally have a legitimate scientist he can barely muster any response beyond “wow that blows my mind”

Watch his interviews with Elon Musk, Billy Corgan, Bob Saget, Edward Snowden, Bob Lazar, Bernie Sanders, etc. That is why we are listening to him.

Google is a big problem here. Joe Rogan is like the Reddit for all our broken Google searches. So Joe Rogan + random topic = high probability of genuine, good and arguably reliable content. Everything else is blogspam and regurgitated content from "hit like and subscribe" bros.

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Post by omot »

Dang some of my favorite episodes are with other comedians. They try to out do each other’s humor, so you get really hilarious moments.

Sad to see all the removed episodes are heavily comedian episodes…

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Post by cudgy »

bambax wrote: post #443
concinds wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The open web is dead. It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. He could have moved to tiny platforms like Odysee or Rokfin that would likely have poor retention rates, or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that. The "death of the open web" problem isn't creators somehow consistently choosing to empo…

> or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that But why would nobody do that? How hard is it? Maybe it's too much trouble for something you don't care about, but for a content you enjoy, doing one copy-paste isn't very difficult? Personally I resent Spotify for the whole move to podcasts. There is still so much to do with music (streaming quality, music videos,…

Does Spotify require you to listen to podcasts? Not sure why your angry that a streaming company would expand into another genre without getting your stamp of approval for what the podcasts discuss and the qualifications of the podcasters. Seems like a perfectly reasonable business move to target curious listeners.

By the way, based on your standards main stream news and most media content should be discouraged. The vast majority of it is “guys talking -- not experts in the [any] subject, but random guys who are pretty ignorant.”

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Post by strofcon »

voisin wrote: post #193
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

And weirdly (as tech tends to be), Spotify was terribad for me in terms of stability and playback continuity. :-D

But yea, Apple Music is not great here either. Haven't had enough time with their suggestion engine, but Spotify's is indeed pretty awful.

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Post by rez9x »

kryogen1c wrote: post #705

this looks alarmingly like a destruction of wrongthink. comedians, musicians, joes friends. this isnt just the rambling conspiracies of alex jones or covid skepticism with non-consensus doctors. rather than debate the meaning of IP, free markets, or the first amendment, we should he focusing on us - the people. our communites. why is it that companies think its advantageous to silence people like this? it must be fol…

Looking through the deleted episodes, most of them aren't even the scientists and pundits in opposition to globalist narratives. They're comedians, actors, and musicians. I am clearly out of the loop. Why would Spotify remove episodes with Kevin Smith and Brian Posehn? I love both of these comedians/writers, but they're largely in-line with Spotify's neoliberal viewpoints, are they not?

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Post by outside1234 »

hnarn wrote: post #466

I don't really understand why anyone who claims to be a proponent of a free market economy has an issue with a private corporation deciding what type of content they want to broadcast. JR sold his catalog of intellectual property (podcast episodes) of his own free will and was paid very well for it: about $100M from what I can gather. What Spotify chooses to do with it is completely up to them, even if they bought it…

I actually don’t have a problem with Spotify deciding they want to pay $100M for this content.

I just don’t want to support it.

So I moved to Apple Music.

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Post by INTPenis »

throwawayrev3 wrote: post #246
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

There's also: Tidal https://tidal.com/ Deezer https://www.deezer.com/ Bandcamp https://bandcamp.com/ Jango https://www.jango.com/ Radio Paradise https://radioparadise.com/ There's also FOSS software for collaborative music with friends, musicians etc: Jamulus https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus

As a long time Google Music user I don't understand why people never mention them. It's Youtube Music now. For 118SEK I get pretty much the same music as any other streaming service, PLUS all of youtube's content without ads, useful on chromecast. I realize you can get rid of the ads if you have a computer hooked up to your monitor but I really like the chromecast.
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