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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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We could rename metaverse. Maybe derive prefixes from chemistry? Meta, ortho, para. Paraverse. Orthoverse. We can't keep using metaverse now.

Subverse? Universe within a universe, a sub universe.

You should try googling that one, preferably not at work, it's taken.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

#712
post #698

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>They can probably make the Metaverse an open standard like the web Thanks I needed the laugh.

Fwiw that is the stated intention: > I think the most important piece here is that the virtual goods and digital economy that’s going to get built out, that that can be interoperable. It’s not just about you build an app or an experience that can work across our headset or someone else’s, I think it’s really important that basically if you have your avatar and your digital clothes and your digital tools and the exper…

Talk is cheap. When did Facebook ever care about interop?

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To be fair, that’s the exact same sentiment I remember reading about Zuck on HN around the time Instagram and WhatsApp acquisitions happened. People were saying it was one of the dumbest business decisions, that Zuck is just desperate and without any brain trying to spend his FB money on acquisitions before FB inevitably dies of irrelevancy, etc. Look at today, and I think most people would agree that acquiring whats…

They were great acquisitions because Facebook failed to compete in those markets. Facebook continues to fail to compete in the youth market. I don't think failing to innovate and then buying your way out of the hole is a sign of particular acumen. And they're still failing to innovate. Facebook now will be "retooling" toward "serving young adults the north star, rather than optimizing for older people." https://twitt…

Not that I want to compliment Zuckerberg, but "buy what you can't build", "know what you can't build", and "reasonably estimate the value of a young company" all seem like business savvy to me. Warren Buffet could be accused of simply buying his way into a huge conglomerate, but instead he's celebrated as a wise investor...

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

#714
post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

It would have been so much less cringe if they had just hired an actor that people liked to deliver the message. No one likes Mark Zuckerberg, so why is he the talking head. He's a terrible actor and presenter. They really needed to pay a famous person to do it.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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For better or worse, it does seem Zuckerberg is as invested in making the "metaverse" the new future of Facebook as Jobs was with Apple and the iPhone

> For better or worse, it does seem Zuckerberg is as invested in making the "metaverse" the new future of Facebook as Jobs was with Apple and the iPhone I don't think we should take that at face value; Zuckerberg of course has strong motivations to appear completely committed, including a desire to motivate employees, partners, etc., and a desire to distract from FB's current bad news (which might explain the timing…

> The iPhone went on sale months after Jobs' announcement (IIRC).

yes, but thats a different CEO who was about presenting themselves as perfect. Zuckerberg for his legion of faults has never done this. He is far more comfortable saying what he wants to deliver _first_

> don't think we should take that at face value

We don't need to, they've handily split out the amount of money they are pouring into this in the public accounts.

> More interesting is that FB possibly has lost so much confidence in its brand that it's de-emphasizing it, which seems like an overreaction to me.

It was fucking stupid to try and link them so closely in the first place. Instagram was a cool brand. Instagram by facebook is deffo not.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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>I don't think Facebook is constitutionally able to give up ad revenue gains This "fiduciary duty" meme really needs to die. Seriously the idea of fiduciary duty [to maximixe profit] is dystopian, corporations don't fuck us over because they have to they do it because they can. Edit: clarify

I also blinked at that. But then took it to mean constitutionally in a pure sense - whether they can keep a strength of belief enough to follow through. Unrelated to 'The Constitution' from a US citizen's point of view. Although now I'm pondering just how misplaced and powerful our reverence of that cobbled together document is.

It’s basically a peace treaty. There are things about it that I think are incredibly counterproductive to democracy (and they were designed to be so!), but I shudder at the thought of rolling the dice on scrapping or heavily re-writing it.

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#718
post #367

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That makes way more sense too. Human brains are pretty complex devices, it’s easy to believe the machines didn’t figure out how to make something comparable and opted for human farming instead. On the other hand humans make very crappy batteries, how does that science even work.

MORPHEUS: For the longest time, I wouldn't believe it. But then I saw the fields with my own eyes, watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living - NEO (politely) : Excuse me, please. MORPHEUS: Yes, Neo? NEO: I've kept quiet for as long as I could, but I feel a certain need to speak up at this point. The human body is the most inefficient source of energy you could possibly imagine. Th…

Oh. An interesting philosophical approach

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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post #690

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Just guessing: now Meta is a holding company of various social media "companies" so it'll be a bit harder to make a case that one company has a monopoly on the internet social media advertising. They can even list Instagram on the market selling maybe a 5% equity.

I think the holding already existed. But it was called Facebook and now it’s called meta

very much this. Facebook is made up of lots and lots of subsidiaries

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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I hope they have serious plans for changing how VR works today. VR quickly loses it's appeal after a few hours. The isolation it brings with it is a huge issue. AR holds more promise in terms of mass appeal but I'm not sure we have that one quite figured out yet technically and from a UX perspective.

I know very little about VR so maybe this will be very off. My guess is they want to address that isolation aspect by making it feel better to interact with others, bringing more people together in the VR space. But this is me interpreting your "the isolation it brings with it" as people just exploring VR by themselves. Did you mean something else?

I mean the isolation of basically wearing a helmet for hours. It's exhausting to have your vision and hearing constrained to the digital world in this way for long periods of time. To me, VR is like a roller coaster. It's super fun but only in small doses.
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