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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Switched to iPhone last year and can't believe how bad iOS is generally. Feels years behind. Missing Android!

Yep, I switched to an iPhone 11 and regret it. The hardware feels better but I really dislike the OS experience... very clunky... and CarPlay is miles behind Android Auto.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> Finally here’s a seemingly good Android phone with 5 years of support - from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect. FairPhone 4 not only promises 5 years of android software updates but also has 5 years of warranty , There are more reasons to trust their words than any of the other phone manufacturers. • They are not profit focused but rather towards sustainability, The…

I bought a Fairphone 3+ 10 weeks ago, and just got a refund because they cannot build any units. I really wanted this, I guess I will continue to wait for the librem5

I wonder if that is because they are about to release the Fairphone 4 and sold out of the last. You'd think they'd shut off the orders though if that were the case.

Edit: Checked their shop and now says Out of Stock: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/fairphone-3-plus

You might have gotten unlucky on timing right at the end of orders.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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I bought a Fairphone 3+ 10 weeks ago, and just got a refund because they cannot build any units. I really wanted this, I guess I will continue to wait for the librem5

I wonder if that is because they are about to release the Fairphone 4 and sold out of the last. You'd think they'd shut off the orders though if that were the case. Edit: Checked their shop and now says Out of Stock: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/fairphone-3-plus You might have gotten unlucky on timing right at the end of orders.

The website simply says "Temporarily out of stock"

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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I love the openness of android, and the explicit permission to root your phone. But iphones have amazing longevity. The iphone 5s you mentioned came out in 2013 - which is 8 years ago now. Back then Obama was still in his first term. Maybe it is way too slow to handle the most recent version of iOS, but I'd rather a phone vendor that releases operating system updates for 8 years than a vendor who releases updates for…

I love the iphone. I get my wife the latest and greatest every two years, and I forget about it. If she had an Android anything, I'd be spending at least an hour per week on tech support. It's absolutely worth the inflated price for me, and the fact that it's extremely limited in possible features is a bonus. Just like I used to love stick, but now an automatic tranny is great, as my enjoyment is the destination not…

I've got to hard disagree with many of the points here based on my own experiences.

My whole family has Android phones from different makes except 2 people with iPhones and they don't need hours of tech support. Your experience may be different, but I think most people using Android phones would agree that for the most part it just works.

For the battery life and the latest iOS, once you upgrade your iPhone to a later version, it is hard to go back, and you need hacker chops to do that if it is even possible. Later versions of iOS do often reduce performance and battery life.

On top of that, iPhones have smaller batteries so even with a tightly-integrated OS, what happens is that with active use, the battery level drops precipitously. Sure they last ages when not touched, but what's the point of that when a video call drops the battery by 50% because the battery itself is smaller?

Most people stuck to power banks these days are people using iPhones, especially the smaller iPhones. Androids have taken care of the battery issue by going with 4000 mAH+ batteries.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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>If she had an Android anything, I'd be spending at least an hour per week on tech support. I highly, highly, highly doubt that. Considering how static phones honestly are after initial setup, when you've installed the apps you need and configured the few things you need configuring, you never touch anything that's not an app.

try installing 5 random apps per week from the google app store and report back to us with the results. make sure to change your phone to mandarin and look for apps from china. repeat in japanese and cantonese. this is what my wife does. she's a language teacher and translator.

What are the issues she faces and does the iPhone work better for that?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Finally here’s a seemingly good Android phone with 5 years of support - from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect. FairPhone 4 not only promises 5 years of android software updates but also has 5 years of warranty , There are more reasons to trust their words than any of the other phone manufacturers. • They are not profit focused but rather towards sustainability, The…

Yup, I love the concept of FairPhone but it lacks US availability and compatibility.

The camera is also a big draw of the Pixel phones. I think it might be a long while for open source and commodity hardware to match top smartphone cameras.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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As I said, I agree with most of what you said. > Now as far as the iphone 6s being usable - that's my point. It is usable, on the old OS it was designed for. That phone was running the latest OS when I gave it to my friend last year. I think it might have been running faster thanks to ios 13 (or whichever version improved performance). I believe you when you say your brother's iphone 5s became unusable with subsequen…

I'm not covinced companies are out to "make their old products feel worse over time". It's just the inevitable consequence of the steady march of technological progress. A 10-20% per year performance improvements and new radio/camera hardware just add up over time and means that your old phone is worse than a new one. And that's before you take into account any degradation in things like nand and battery that they tr…

People aren't comparing their old phone to the new hotness, but to how it was when it was new. I think it is reasonable to assume that planned obsolescence is a thing and that OEMs make their products slower on purpose so people buy new ones.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Google seems to have for some reason requested a very/overly broad embargo from reviewers which does not let them show any photos taken with the device or software features for now. MKBHD mentions this (and shows nothing from the phone really) @ https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 And Mrwhosetheboss said he refused to cover these phones due to the embargo. The Tech Chap mentions he can't show anything apart from the h…

Interesting. Wasn't it the same for the last pixel? And also, MKBHD still made a video about them, why? Wouldn't it hurt Google more if he would just not cover them?

Also, he regularly has Apple devices that he also has similar embargoes for and is not allowed to release stuff until the products are on the street or shortly before that - as for this Pixel. Does he always call it a red flag there too?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Wasn't Apple intentionally slowing older phones with updates? I remember reading some news about it.

They throttled performance depending on battery capacity, because the alternative was that the battery could not keep up with a sudden spike, powering off completely. The problem was that they didn’t notify users, and after people in France winning a lawsuit, they now have it opt in I think? Nonetheless, it was a feature made in good faith.

The optics of that were absolutely terrible. They could have announced it in WWDC and made people aware of it. Instead they raised a shitstorm for no good reason.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Did you notice MKBHD said this kind of embargo is a "red flag". Well, he already knows any issues that may exist, so it's very interesting that he chose to say this.

There's a good video he's featured in discussing this issue https://youtu.be/9V0lXIK9DZQ

Funny to see him in that video, with him getting begged by his viewers to cover the CSAM scanning controversy on every video for weeks - but he ignored it. Wonder why.
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