This is beautiful... I'd pay $4k for a mac without a damned touch bar!
Now if they can just get rid of the legacy lightning jack on the iPhone.
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#712These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
Personally, the investments in the camera and display are wasted for me. I run my mbps in “clam shell mode” and use external displays and cameras. The 64G of ram is huge though. It only took them half a decade to figure it out.
You should wait for the "Mac Mini Pro" which will have M1 Pro and Max options
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#713HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
Some basic math makes believe the Monterey menu bar might be 74px height.
(3456 * 10/16)-2234 = -74 (3024 * 10/16)-1964 = -74
Which means both models have a 16:10 ratio + 74 extra pixels in heigh. Clearly they are adding stuff for the notch instead of clipping from useful area...
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#7142k USD for a laptop in 2021? Apple's goddamn genius. Oh, it has a newer processor that'll make awful software such as XCode and every internet browser a little faster? Well I'm in!
To be fair, a decked out i9 laptop can easily end up in the same price range. So I don't think it's that outlandish really.
Sure. I'm making the argument that 2k for a laptop form factor is outlandish, not that there aren't products as bizarre as 'gaming laptops' that perhaps cost even more.
I have yet to see a mass market use-case for a powerful laptop. Who are these people that need to regularly go from place to place and need to do compute-intensive work in those various places?
I've been given laptops at work - everyone would've been better off with a mac mini 100% of the time (assuming you can upgrade those?) - the only people who don't connect their laptop to a big monitor anyway are people asking for neck and shoulder problems within a decade.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#715These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
> All the ports you could ever want I agree with everything else you said and I think overall these machines will be awesome. I would disagree with you on the ports though, I think this is kind of a miss for Apple. They caved into some of the loudest complaints from several years ago which were already coming from a loud minority and that minority is now smaller than ever. And if they were set on changing the ports t…
i was also hoping that they would somehow be able to shoehorn an ethernet port inside of the power adapter, like on the M1 iMac
on my M1 MacBook Pro (which, throughout the pandemic, has rested on my desk in clamshell mode all day, like a desktop), I use a
ethernet ethernet to thunderbolt 2 thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3/usb-c
unfortunately, there seems to be some kind of hardware bug in the thunderbolt 2 ethernet adapter, so even when the machine is asleep or off, it runs hot
it also seems weird that Apple doesn't manufacture a first party ethernet usb-c adapter — if i'm not mistaken, the only one on their website is made by Belkin and costs $30; moreover, I don't think anyone even manufactures a 10gbps ethernet adapter for the M1
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#716These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
> All the ports you could ever want I agree with everything else you said and I think overall these machines will be awesome. I would disagree with you on the ports though, I think this is kind of a miss for Apple. They caved into some of the loudest complaints from several years ago which were already coming from a loud minority and that minority is now smaller than ever. And if they were set on changing the ports t…
> HDMI used to be useful for plugging into a projector for presentations, that use-case is now nearly non-existent now that all meetings tend to happen over zoom, webex, teams, hangouts, etc. even when in-person.
I'm not sure you have the information to make the claim that the use case for HDMI is nearly non-existent. We use HDMI all the time. Availability bias is a thing. I find that people drastically underestimate how much they don't know about a subject or use-case of a product.
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#717Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
As someone who bought a mid-2018 with the escape key on the touchbar, then watched the next model have it's own key, then watched all these ports get added back... I'm extremely frustrated to say the least. Trade in is valued at $840. If I had known either of these two updates would have gone " backwards " like this, I would have waited to purchase
Back in 2018 I chose to buy a refurbished mid-2015 specifically to avoid dealing with those issues. And feeling no frustration whatsoever :)
I guess when you take a stand and refuse to hand over your money for anti-features, you do get rewarded sometimes.
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#718The hardware is amazing, but I could not see myself going back to proprietary closed source OS. I would like to chose the distro (hey some people want NIX some OK with Ubuntu), X11 vs Wayland, pick the display manager, decide if I want to run LTS or beelding-edge, etc. My only hope is that some day Linux support all MBP hardware well enough to use this a Linux laptop.
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#719Simply too pricey… my two cents. Like to see the return of useful ports but 2,000$ a bit high here
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#720Did anyone catch how many external monitors these can drive, and at what resolutions and refresh rates?