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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#712

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

It's not like they have a choice. Their business was only ever viable at the behest of their payment provider. The reason no one has made an OnlyFans before, and the reason why people have tried and failed, entirely comes down to this.

Nothing particularly noble about porn, but it irks me that payment providers act as unofficial censors of business. Why should legal businesses be denied access to the de facto legal tender of 21st century? And on a whim of unelected CEOs...

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#713

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

It’s a recent push toward more mainstream performers. For example, there are pro surfers who are popular youtube vloggers (e.g. Nathan Florence) who recently started onlyfans channels. Nathan’s is a fitness training channel. It threw a lot of people off guard. And I strongly suspect that onlyfans paid him to start this channel.

https://onlyfans.com/nathanflorence https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/17/onlyfans-pivot-porn-backi...

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#714

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>TFA: >> OnlyFans is getting out of the pornography business. >HN: > s/of the pornography //. …is getting out business?

Patreon’s 2020 annual net revenue is estimated at $80M. Last year onlyfans did $375M net revenue and 2021 is…was projected at $1.2B Without porn, onlyfans will do maybe $100M in 2022. It’s the difference between a $1.5B valuation and a $20B valuation.

I think they mean that it should be s/the pornography //, rather than s/of the pornography //, so it's "out of business."

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#715

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Do you think prostitution should be legal?

Sex work should be legal. I do not want to use the word “prostitution” as it carries unnecessary stigma. The main consideration is the safety of sex workers. Exploitation does exist but victims are hesitant to go law enforcement precisely because sex work is illegal. On the flip side people organizing sex work enterprises (aka “pimps” and “madams”) are already breaking the law so for them application of violence is n…

Prostitution is a subset of sex work

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#716

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I assume they will end up like Tumblr after it went Safe for Work. Still around but nowhere near as popular and a shell of its former self.

Not necessarily. Discord is a pretty popular platform for exclusive access to selected people, e.g. Patreon supporters. As long as OF allows this kind of link it might stay relevant.

Did you know Pornhub has a social network-like function and achievements? But if a coworker wanted to connect with you by asking you to add them on PornHub, you'd probably not think that this is about a casual coworker friendship.

It's going to be similar if people link to OnlyFans instead of Patreon (or Locals).

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

> If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever can operate beyond those constraints, which is kind of a sad state of affairs for free speech, separation of church and state, and policing in general. Welcome to the "free(…

The reason nobody can compete is because of regulations. If it was a free market, there wouldn't be so many regulations, and people would be able to compete.

The unfortunate truth is that anarchy is better than a weak democracy, because weak democracies just become oligarchies with more steps.

Ofc, a strong democracy is better than either, and regulations are extremely important. But in this case, those regulations are more for the oligarchs than the people.

If you really want a great example of anarchy vs oligarchy, take note that the anarchy of the private world ran Trump into the ground repeatedly and called him a loser while our public world gave him all the power it could and started a cult. Anarchy isn't great, but it's better than that.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#718

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TFA: > OnlyFans is getting out of the pornography business. HN: s/of the pornography //

>TFA: >> OnlyFans is getting out of the pornography business. >HN: > s/of the pornography //. …is getting out business?

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.

-- Jamie Zawinski

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#719

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

Actually I'd have to say a good marketing department. I think it was part of a long-term plan to be relevant to broad audiences, and come out through the woodwork already strong.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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So, serious question because I know very little about OnlyFans other than the general knowledge flowing around the internet: What does this leave of the site? Because my impression was certainly that this was the purpose of the site.

Fairly good explanation of it being about far more than nudity. They have created a casino like experience for emotional interaction. https://youtu.be/ji5qepCx-8s

I'd like to note, though, that this video also treats OnlyFans as a porn-only site. It literally starts with asking "Why do people spend money on OnlyFans?" when what they're asking is "why do people spend money on porn".
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