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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Agreed. Except I think the "free" setup is much more expensive.

Are you kidding? Look up how much US spends on healthcare and how much rest of the world does.

That's an impossible comparison -- "rest of the world."

Is your point, "we spend so much today that we couldn't possibly spend more under a different legislative regime."??

Do you have a reference?

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Are you kidding? Look up how much US spends on healthcare and how much rest of the world does.

That's an impossible comparison -- "rest of the world." Is your point, "we spend so much today that we couldn't possibly spend more under a different legislative regime."?? Do you have a reference?

Look at what other OECD states spend per capita. Compare to how much the US spends per capita. For a real WTF look at how much public money the US already spends per capita. This is all a google away. The safe bet based on available data would be that moving our system to be more similar to any of those used by other OECD states would significantly reduce our spending while having little effect on health outcomes.

It's possible some other reforms that differ radically from those systems would improve things, and maybe even be better than anything other OECD states do, but since we have a wealth of real-world data about how the existing systems work and only speculation about most others, it's a much safer move to base reforms on the ones that are observably better than ours in the real world.

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Hmm OK, so I guess you just make sure you buy a phone with an easily replaceable battery then? Or is it that cheap when you have it done too?

It's actually not too bad, even on phones without "easily" replaceable batteries. Speaking for the OnePlus One and Nexus 5 the procedure is pretty straight forward: pop it open using plastic trim tools (which are often sold with batteries) disconnect the ribbon cable and pry the battery off any adhesive. Drop the new one in, reconnect it and snap it back together and you're done. Depends on the phone I guess, but the…

And obtaining a battery? That sounds pretty difficult for a years-old phone of which the battery is not meant to be replaced...

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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> That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Check your cardholder agreements. Mine do.

> Check your cardholder agreements. Only some of us haven't kept those in many, many years. And the one I had back then certainly didn't have such things, but it might have changed since the late 90's. For myself personally, it doesn't seem worth the hassle. Another bill every month that is non-necessary when I could just save some money to cover such things or get it repaired. It kinda sucked not having an actual ca…

I don't see my credit card as "another bill"; in fact I use it to autopay as well as make daily purchases, so it becomes "the only bill" (or, one of the only).

Yeah, you can autopay on debit cards too, but I don't trust that as much.

Purchase protection is pretty common on good credit cards.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Why are you bringing up healthcare on an iPhone discussion? Trying to figure out how it is relevant to the pricing of an iPhone in Sweden.

As a European, I noticed that discussions held here about X in the US _always_ converge against their healthcare. "Salary in the US is higher" - but heir healthcare sucks "Weather in California is nicer than in Oslo" - But you don't have healtcare "New York is such a great city to live in" - But you're left for dead

I'd say for most of us in the US it's a non-issue -- you either have it, or you don't, and that hasn't changed a ton in the past few decades. I don't go around thinking "man, if I was in Sweden, I'd ALSO have health care just like I do today".

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post #297

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"You cannot even do basic tasks like download an mp3/pdf/whatever in your browser and then open it the app of your choice." While I agree with your general sentiment I can save and open PDF:s from safari to third party applications just fine on my IPad.

How do you save it? I don't get any option to do that. Only options to directly open it in applications that are registered to open PDF files. That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application. Which is terrible messy and clunky way to deal with files imho. For MP3s I don't get any option other then to open them in Safari.

"That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application"

But that's different from being unable to save :)

This is what I meant. I have not found a magic button to bypass the ios sandboxing.

Google drive works almost as well for me since I use it anyway.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Are you kidding? Look up how much US spends on healthcare and how much rest of the world does.

That's an impossible comparison -- "rest of the world." Is your point, "we spend so much today that we couldn't possibly spend more under a different legislative regime."?? Do you have a reference?

What ashark said - you can't do worse in healthcare spending than USA

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Except a good keyboard really makes the difference, an iPhone is worse in many ways from my Xiaomi Mi5, that costed 200 euros. For example you can't use the iPhone as an usb disk.

I don't know about you, but I most certainly can use my iPhone as a USB disk.

> but I most certainly can use my iPhone as a USB disk.

No, you can't.

Try to connect your iPhone to the USB port of your smart TV and see what happens.

HINT: nothing

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post #385

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Except a good keyboard really makes the difference, an iPhone is worse in many ways from my Xiaomi Mi5, that costed 200 euros. For example you can't use the iPhone as an usb disk.

What makes a keyboard better in your opinion? I once bought a 100$ mechanical keynoard and ended up going back to my 10$ keyboard because it was familiar I am not sure if the difference between keyboards is that price dependant

> What makes a keyboard better in your opinion?

In my case it reduces wrist fatigue

I'm 40, being using computers for 35 years now

A good keyboard literally makes my life better

My point is that a good keyboard can make the difference, while an "iPhone only" feature most probably won't

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Except a good keyboard really makes the difference, an iPhone is worse in many ways from my Xiaomi Mi5, that costed 200 euros. For example you can't use the iPhone as an usb disk.

This is not limited to iPhones, you can buy very nice Android phones that are meaningful upgrades vs a Xiaomi Mi5.

Sure!

I tend to buy top of the line devices given a price range.

Mi5 was the flagship phone for Xiaomi when I bought it

I also was a owner of previous Xiaomi products and I wanted to test the new one

My point is that iPhone is a very limited platform

And its value for money is very low

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