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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

pc86 wrote: post #701
AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #673

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No. I am a huge music nerd. It's my life's passion. I need everything. If it is not everything, it's not enough. In the past, technically savvy music nerds like me had options. LPs and CDs as a distribution format offered true permanence. Vinyl when cared for properly usually outlives the owner. CDs can be ripped and archived with perfect 1:1 accuracy. These formats don't disappear from my record shelves at the whim…

> In the past LPs and CDs still exist.

Forgive my bluntness, but this is a disingenuous comment. LPs and CDs may still exist, but they are obviously not a supported distribution format by the music industry anymore - with the country of Japan being the only glaring exception.

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Post by nkkollaw »

boyce wrote: post #516
nitemice wrote: post #309

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You'd happily give away those dollars to the content owners, if they'd just let you stream it legally.

It also needs to be easier to buy it than steal it and not have unskippable adverts or lectures on piracy for a lot of things, stealing is both easier and better

Ha! Yes, the piracy ad is awesome...

Instead of buying ad space on torrent sites (let's say), they lecture people who have actually bought the DVD. And, those who download the movie illegally can skip that, only those who actually have the DVD watch it.

Absolutely retarded.

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Post by felipelemos »

geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

I think incredible how much money they are not making by each movie that is not available on some stream platform.

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Post by samclearman »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #303
samclearman wrote: post #289

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Maybe you never used to spend more than $10/month on video, but most Americans have been spending an order of magnitude more than that.

Some stats too back that up? More than 50% of USA population spend >$100 per month on video? A family of 4 would be spending $400+ on video??

Pricing is per household, so a family of four spends the same as an single individual.

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Post by problems »

FRex wrote: post #197
wongarsu wrote: post #37

A large part why Spotify, Netflix and Steam are so successful is because they are more convenient than piracy, and they have most of the content you would want. When you again have the choice to either check half a dozen services to see who has the show you want, or to go one-stop shopping at the pirate bay, guess what a lot of people will do.

Speaking of that, it's curious that there isn't a piracy version of Steam that integrates with tor, torrents and such. How bizarre and awesome (in the way stuxnet was awesome tech but not exactly well meant one) of a concept would that be? And the outcry of the triple A industry, wow. There is LaunchBox for emulators and DOSBox but that's it.. and it just downloads the metadata, not the emulators and ROMs themselves.

Games are huge and each one has special needs, it's not like you can stream just part of a game. Certainly no Popcorn Time.

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Post by knodi123 »

boyce wrote: post #516
nitemice wrote: post #309

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You'd happily give away those dollars to the content owners, if they'd just let you stream it legally.

It also needs to be easier to buy it than steal it and not have unskippable adverts or lectures on piracy for a lot of things, stealing is both easier and better

> and not have unskippable adverts

The other day, I pirated a disney movie that I already own on DVD, because who the hell has the time to sit through 20 unskippable previews, and then an excessively animated DVD menu, and then go through a badly paginated list of scenes to try and find where you left off- but the streaming pirate site just let me click to the exact point I left off, within seconds.

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Post by komali2 »

Mindwipe wrote: post #559
komali2 wrote: post #172

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I don't know why all these people behind these decisions don't just look at Gabe Newell and his simple statement - "Piracy is a service problem." Steam is a rampant success. You'd think people would catch on. Have the content, make it easy to access, make it easy to pay, and people will give you money hand over fist.

Stream uses DRM, has famously bad customer service, geofilters content and uses differential pricing, keeps content it produces itself exclusively to the platform and withholds it from others, bars some content based on arbitrary criteria, maintains a singular store that doesn't play especially nice with third party indexing tools etc etc etc. Even Valve doesn't believe in Gabe's statement, and never did. Dozens of m…

I said make it easy, steam did make it easy. It is easy to use steam to buy and play games. Maybe it's not easy to use steam to buy a game, and then play it without steam... but then that wouldn't fit into my argument.

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Post by komali2 »

slau wrote: post #580
setzer22 wrote: post #570

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And you're forgetting download speeds. When steam started being successful it would take me a full day to download a game, while in steam I could get it in a couple hours maximum. Maybe that's not true anymore. But I'm sure contributed to steam's success.

I think there's another point that is very important: Steam was the original cloud. Back in the day where GMail was heralded as being amazing, and offering 1GB of storage for your mails, Steam came out and said "don't worry about how to install Half-Life/CS, or which patch to apply, I'm automating all of it." "You don't need to worry about your CDs any more. I'll give you the content, for free, anytime you change PCs…

Save files and settings were sucked into the cloud as well (sometimes). Great for little games I like to play on multiple computers.

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Post by conanbatt »

geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

If there were a single service that had all the content, and no one else had content, you would be pirating because the cost could go to the 100s.

The competition of content is what makes the services cheap and pumps out new quality content on different platforms. At the same time it allows for the efficent satisfaction of the demand: those that care little pay little, those that care a lot pay a lot. With a single bundle, you either get all or you get nothing.

There are many arguments to believe this is more efficient. The music industry, also, its ridden with tremendous problems, I would not model my business after them if I had the choice.

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