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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by microgpt »

utilize1808 wrote: post #568
pixelpoet wrote: post #508

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Then all they do is drive the usage of open models underground (copyright infringement is illegal too, and still common), stifle US companies operating legally, and accelerate the rest of the world decoupling from the US. I hope they do it! It will have a positive long-term effect just like the Iran war footgun accelerates renewable energy transition.

Have you seen legitimate corporates use cracked software? If you do, then your competitors will report you; your employees will blackmail you. The risk is too great.

I've seen "legitimate companies" commit piracy on a scale that well exceeds all cracked software piracy combined.

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Post by microgpt »

Larrikin wrote: post #559
kgeist wrote: post #386

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I wonder how you can reliably detect an open source model though. It can be stored in any binary format, and the weights can be modified slightly so that the float values are completely different while the network works the same. The binary that runs it can be obfuscated as well. Maybe the hardware could detect common LLM inference patterns at runtime? That would probably produce many false positives.

It's been illegal forever to run a pirated copy of Windows or Photoshop. Even 30 years ago people weren't worried that their pirated copies would tattle on them, businesses did not use pirated copies because vendors would report them/not work on their systems, legal discovery could find them, etc and then they would get ridiculous fines. It's one thing to get a copy of "illegal" software and use it yourself. The stak…

Completely different to run a business on massive copyright infringement. A business like... OpenAI.

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Post by microgpt »

asadotzler wrote: post #333
varispeed wrote: post #290

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That until it becomes illegal to have or use open source models without approval and licence from government. With more talks about on device scanning, this could be easily plumbed in. If OS detects there is open source model, it could brick your device or alert authorities. Then next step will be limiting what operating system you can install. Likely only those where you cannot remove client side scanning.

It can't easily be plumbed in, though. I can spin up my own Linux build with none of that plumbing and do what I want with it. I can grab China's best models and use them or distilled versions on my own terms because OSS allows for that. Until hardware comes fully locked down and the models cannot be run on old hardware, both a long ways off, OSS is a way out.

Linux will be an illegal operating system in 2027 because it doesn't do age verification.

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Post by peder »

dzonga wrote: post #516
mips_avatar wrote: post #282

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This is what OpenAI/Anthropic want, it's better marketing than they can pay for -- and it creates a precedent for permanently banning the next generation of open weights models

damn, never thought about this - but yeah this is where we are heading. open weight models - will be deemed too risky to be out in the open - since they can be abused by "bad actors" (unwashed masses)

100% this is the direction all govts will go. This isn't specific to any political party, it's just about communications control. I don't think open source models will be directly capped, necessarily, but all commercial/easy-to-setup models will be heavily regulated.

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Post by hdgvhicv »

helloplanets wrote: post #35
hdgvhicv wrote: post #7

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It’s looking very fragile from a legal point of view. Ownership of compute and software freedom will be next k the chopping block after control of networks that’s occurring at the moment.

Less so in EU than in US.

America

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/lawmakers-want-ban-vpn...

Europe

https://cybernews.com/privacy/age-gates-vpn-ban-europe-inter...

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Post by olalonde »

trashface wrote: post #380

Pretty happy for anything that will throw some sand into the gears of AI development, given all the negative externalities that are becoming apparent, even if the admin is doing it for the usual dumbass reasons.

> given all the negative externalities that are becoming apparent

What specific externalities are you referring to? The only I can think of is high electricity usage, but consuming energy isn't an externality in itself. It depends entirely on how that electricity is generated and whether its environmental costs are already priced.

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Post by tokioyoyo »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #69
watwut wrote: post #45

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China tech industry is smoking ruin? On what planet are you living?

Tech crackdowns rid China of entrepreneurial capitalism https://eastasiaforum.org/2023/09/12/tech-crackdowns-rid-chi... Why China crushed its tech giants https://www.wired.com/story/china-tech-giants-policy/ Why Big Tech May Never Recover in China https://time.com/6973119/china-big-tech-crackdown-backfiring... Beijing can’t afford another crackdown on its tech companies https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/11/china-cant-affo…

At some point, we should kinda accept that "China's X, Y, Z industries are about to collapse" headlines are just bad at predicting the future. They've proven again and again how they can pivot fast. Applies to tech as well.

I'm assuming you don't have any working relations with any Chinese companies, because on-the-ground shows something much different than what these headlines promise.

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Post by plemer »

microgpt wrote: post #680
jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

How is this regulatory capture? Any new LLM company can just exist outside of the US and export to everyone.

You’re saying it’s not regulatory capture because it’s not enforced globally?
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