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Re: Siri AI

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Post by abustamam »

Planktonne wrote: post #663
abustamam wrote: post #658

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I'm not sure what is being discussed? OP is a bad parent for wanting to turn off exactly one light in his child's bedroom? If so, yes, there is plenty of reason to shut down this discussion.

It's hard to read your comments as in good faith or compliant with the HN guidelines [1]. If you not sure what's being discussed, then you should consider not jumping in and trying to deflect. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm not quite sure how I'm deflecting? I originally thought we were discussing OP wanting to use Siri to turn off a light in a bedroom. Somehow you started using this simple desire to as a way to tell the OP how to parent better, which imo is not something worth discussing on a forum of anonymous internet users who have zero context on someone's family life.

So you tell me, what are we discussing?

BTW, the very HN guidelines you link to say that if you think something violates the guidelines, flag and move on without engaging.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by abustamam »

Planktonne wrote: post #700
abustamam wrote: post #699

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There's a difference between a simple disagreement and a judgment on a person's use of technology based on a rather mundane task. > That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it. "weirder" has a pretty negative connotation, hard not to see its usage as denigrating. "what should be a moment or connection" is an assumption on what the moment actua…

You're literally focused on tone, critiquing connotations rather than substance. It's difficult to have a discussion if a bunch of unrelated people jump in not to add but to quibble about phrasing. If you don't want to discuss anything, just don't involve yourself.

Words matter. You can't use words and then complain when people call you out on your usage of words.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by watwut »

marcosdumay wrote: post #696
watwut wrote: post #593

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Eating disorder as a service does indeed sound like a business plan.

Some people would use the GP's idea that way, yes. But that's absolutely not what he's describing. He wants not to think about it, that's exactly the opposite of a disorder. Anyway, an LLM assistant is also exactly the worst technology to use there, on every dimension.

People with eating disorder do not want to think about it, they cant stop thinking about it. They create all kinds of systems for themselves, but mind cant stop - and restrictions grow.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by troupo »

josho wrote: post #121
OberstKrueger wrote: post #14

> Available on iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17 Pro Max, iPhone Air, iPad models with M4 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory, and Mac models with M3 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory. It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices. And this was after the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro were marketed so heavily with supporting their now failed effort at AI.

> It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices. At first I thought it was the usual planned obsolescence. Then I realized it may be a true technical limitation. I suspect an embedding model is required to run on device in order to make several of the features work. Embedding models are small compared to LLMs, but, depending on their capabilities, could be the memory driver.

> At first I thought it was the usual planned obsolescence. Then I realized it may be a true technical limitation.

It's shortsightedness on Apple's part, being both the first to the game, and the last to the game. Go back any number of years in the past decade. For at ;east 10 years Apple was telling everyone how great their local models are, and how amazing desktop-class their "neural" chips are. And yet here we are with them somehow incapable of running anything except on a few recent top-tier models.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by hollowturtle »

intrasight wrote: post #582
hollowturtle wrote: post #515

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How many people would use audio interfaces in public places or offices? No one would share with everybody what he wants to do. GUI are there for simplify interactions too, it's just we forgot how to implement them well

It's not an audio interface - it's a voice interface. Voice interfaces can be silent.

Oh sure

Re: Siri AI

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Post by officeplant »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #241
officeplant wrote: post #151

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>Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. I was working in cellphone sales at the time and I can tell you no one wanted that phone back then even when Facebook was massive. An easy to hit facebook button was not a value add anyone was begging to exist. Although with…

I think I want a physical AI device. I want an AI assistant that I can use truly hands free. I keep my phone in my jacket when I'm riding my motorcycle. I want to be able to start, stop, adjust, and check details in route guidance. I want to be able to ask what the weather is like ahead on my route. I want to be able to ask it to start looking for a sensible place for me to stop for fuel and/or food without making me…

None of these demands need an AI in a box.

They need software companies to give a damn and improve apple maps/gmaps/etc.

Or perhaps pull over and adjust your routing like most of us do, or maybe bolt a sacrificial phone with maps on it to a holder. If you don't want to risk your main phone.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

officeplant wrote: post #706
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #241

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I think I want a physical AI device. I want an AI assistant that I can use truly hands free. I keep my phone in my jacket when I'm riding my motorcycle. I want to be able to start, stop, adjust, and check details in route guidance. I want to be able to ask what the weather is like ahead on my route. I want to be able to ask it to start looking for a sensible place for me to stop for fuel and/or food without making me…

None of these demands need an AI in a box. They need software companies to give a damn and improve apple maps/gmaps/etc. Or perhaps pull over and adjust your routing like most of us do, or maybe bolt a sacrificial phone with maps on it to a holder. If you don't want to risk your main phone.

> Or perhaps pull over and adjust your routing like most of us do

The entire point is I don't want to have to stop in order to receive new information.

I don't know how to make that clearer, sorry.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by iknowstuff »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #336
iknowstuff wrote: post #196

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its clear from their efforts thus far (image playground jesus fuck) that AI and even prompt engineering talent actively flocks away from them

Haven't you heard? Prompt engineering is dead. The cool kids are making Claude prompt itself. They're writing loops, not prompts. It's all about optimal tip-to-tip efficiency now. “I don’t prompt Claude anymore. I have loops running that prompt Claude and figuring out what to do. My job is to write loops”.—Boris Cherny

heh I merely said prompt engineering because their efforts amounted to writing a prompt and sending it off to a model somebody else created to create some awful images

Re: Siri AI

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Post by iknowstuff »

nozzlegear wrote: post #421
iknowstuff wrote: post #196

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its clear from their efforts thus far (image playground jesus fuck) that AI and even prompt engineering talent actively flocks away from them

What's wrong with image playground? I haven't used it.

remember the first will smith eating spaghetti memes? thats the quality

Re: Siri AI

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Post by officeplant »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #707
officeplant wrote: post #706

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None of these demands need an AI in a box. They need software companies to give a damn and improve apple maps/gmaps/etc. Or perhaps pull over and adjust your routing like most of us do, or maybe bolt a sacrificial phone with maps on it to a holder. If you don't want to risk your main phone.

> Or perhaps pull over and adjust your routing like most of us do The entire point is I don't want to have to stop in order to receive new information. I don't know how to make that clearer, sorry.

Todays pulling over to adjust planning is yesterdays pulling over to make a call, and yesteryears pulling over to throw a map on the hood.

Riding on a motorcycle is already dangerous enough with the average land tank driver on their phone. Talking to your AI assistant while riding at speed sounds like pending split focus disasters waiting to happen.

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