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United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

pdonis wrote: post #500
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #497

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>even a tiny probability that it might be a threat has to be paid attention What if it had been named "Teddy Ruxpin is my friend", but the pilot doesn't know whether that's a secret code for "I'm going to release aerosol sarin nerve gas on the plane"? Should he react to all messages as if they are threats, because no matter how small the risk is, more than zero is too much? If you can't know whether something is a th…

> What if it had been named "Teddy Ruxpin is my friend", but the pilot doesn't know whether that's a secret code for "I'm going to release aerosol sarin nerve gas on the plane"? I'm unable to find any connection between Teddy Ruxpin and sarin gas online, so I don't see why a pilot would make such a connection. Am I missing something? > If you can't know whether something is a threat or not, the only reasonable respon…

>I'm unable to find any connection between Teddy Ruxpin and sarin gas online, so I don't see why a pilot would make such a connection.

And I'm unable to see the connection that you're imagining in the original post. What is it? Can you explain it to me? Is the threat here in the room with us now?

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Post by madeofpalk »

neilv wrote: post #178

I once consulted on some aviation-related software (not the safety work prominent on my resume), and a company announcement came through, that you must never use a few specific words commonly heard in software development. The two no-no words I recall were "crash" and "bomb". Don't write them in code or documents, don't say them on the phone or videoconf, etc. Those terms have senses that people in aviation take extr…

Similarly, I worked on in-flight user-facing software, and we were allowed to use a “plane pointing downwards” icon to denote arrival time, because the connotations to crash were too strong.

No one believed that the icon would make the plane crash, but it’s about creating an environment that makes people feel as safe and comfortable as possible. You don’t want people freaking out when they’re locked in a small metal tube in the sky.

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Post by refurb »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #652
anigbrowl wrote: post #451

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Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

> In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no way to leave. Its not private space. Its public because they sell tickets. Its like going to any other event, and I don’t think there’s a constitutional exception to free speech on airplanes where you can’t express your opinions.

Flying on a plane is in no way similar to a public ticketed event. It takes about 30 second of logical thinking to realize that's not true.

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Post by throw368498 »

defrost wrote: post #698
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #694

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You do know that "zionists" is a code work for jews in general right? A zionist is someone who thinks Israel has a right to exist. Then I am a zionist and I am white as snow.

Not all Jews are Zionists .. so they are not equivalent words. eg: https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/who-we-are

To the antisemites it’s the same thing.

I can point you to threads here on HN where negative things are said about Jews and the term “Zionists” is used interchangeably with “Jews”.

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Post by defrost »

throw368498 wrote: post #705
defrost wrote: post #698

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Not all Jews are Zionists .. so they are not equivalent words. eg: https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/who-we-are

To the antisemites it’s the same thing. I can point you to threads here on HN where negative things are said about Jews and the term “Zionists” is used interchangeably with “Jews”.

Misuse by idiots doesn't make them equivalent terms.

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Post by throw368498 »

defrost wrote: post #706
throw368498 wrote: post #705

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To the antisemites it’s the same thing. I can point you to threads here on HN where negative things are said about Jews and the term “Zionists” is used interchangeably with “Jews”.

Misuse by idiots doesn't make them equivalent terms.

Depends on who’s saying it. Often times it’s obvious from the context that “Zionist” is just being used as a loophole, and pretending that the difference is then still important is disingenuous.

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Post by defrost »

throw368498 wrote: post #707
defrost wrote: post #706

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Misuse by idiots doesn't make them equivalent terms.

Depends on who’s saying it. Often times it’s obvious from the context that “Zionist” is just being used as a loophole, and pretending that the difference is then still important is disingenuous.

What's your position here?

Are Jew and Zionist equivalent words in your opinion?

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Post by gpt5 »

stef25 wrote: post #683
gpt5 wrote: post #678

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> a plane half full of Hasidic Jews (the ones refusing to board because they're still praying and knocking their head against the wall, and refuse to sit next to women). I don't know why you've decided to explain what is a Hasidic jew in that way (or at all). However I hope you can at least understand in retrospect why describing a religious group as people who all follow some negative behavior is promoting hate towa…

I have no hate against any kind of jew, muslim or soccer team.

Looks like I was wrong in my last statement above. unfortunately you didn’t understand (or chose to ignore) why your comment is promoting hate.

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Post by jim33442 »

GJim wrote: post #686
jim33442 wrote: post #313

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The article mentions that terrorists have used fake bomb threats to achieve some other goal, which makes sense

> terrorists have used fake bomb threats to achieve some other goal That 'other goal' being to cause disruption. Which this did. Now we all know how to disrupt a flight anonymously. Grudge against ? Fill your boots!

I mean something like taking control of the plane or else they blow it up
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