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Re: Google changes its search box

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You can buy recipe books at brick and mortar stores, and they're mostly not AI slop yet.

My partner recently bought a receipe book that was probably 100% slop, from the recipes themselvea to the images for each dish.

Completely unrelated to AI, I buy and always bought recipe books in second hand bookstores. It has this vintage vibe, and not everything has to be kale. Downside is that some ingredients aren't easily reachable, but it doesn't happen that often.

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Which as some running a website raises a fascinating question. If Google is just going to crawl my sites and present information as an AI summary on their site, then what exactly do I gain by allowing Googlebot to crawl my sites?

I write things on the internet because I want to share ideas. If someone reads my post and tells a friend, that's great. If an AI crawls my posts and passes along the ideas that's great too. (It doesn't work for ad-funded writing, but while I have substantial sympathy there this has historically been an unpopular argument on HN)

AI crawls your post, corrupts your idea or alters it to advertise a product and then passes that along. Still happy?

Re: Google changes its search box

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Which as some running a website raises a fascinating question. If Google is just going to crawl my sites and present information as an AI summary on their site, then what exactly do I gain by allowing Googlebot to crawl my sites?

Internet is more and more becoming a commercialization platform. If you are selling something on your website, you still want Google (or ChatGPT for that matters) to expose customers to your product. The gate is the actual delivery of the product is behind a purchase/signup. Google and others want to control the entire customer journey, to the point the your website is simply a way to pass metadata to them. They are…

Maybe it's time to think about alternative ways to market your products, if search engine ranking and SEO got broken. I have no idea how, I don't need or do that, but it seems we're past breaking point.

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Then we go and pay to Cloudeflare or other cloud providers you host sites with to prevent Google from scraping. Let the big guys fight it out. There is money in protecting the websites. If you host with OVH they are interested in you making money so you can pay them.

Ok but how would people find your website then

You put it in your hn bio /s

Re: Google changes its search box

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The web as we know it is over. Websites will die on the vine if LLMs intermediate all the content. The "website" of the future will be an API optimized for LLM crawlers, serving plain-text content that no end-user will ever view directly. The SEO game will change to LLMAO.

LLM agent is the new browser. We had internet before we had browsers, then the browser took over as the main method of consuming the internet. It has a lot of problems and e.g. mobile apps are trying to fill the void, but they have their own problems. Next stage is the personal assistant agent, which will be the single entry point to the internet.

So when will you stop visiting HN?

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Most large corporations have company credit cards. The user is likely referring to his card being the company card.

Nah. Pretty sure he was using a personal card - corporate finance dept would likely better track where each card is being used and their expiration dates to avoid this happening. Also this better tracks with the rest of his sloppy behavior.

> corporate finance dept would likely better track where each card is being used and their expiration dates to avoid this happening

I have seen this happen first hand at a Fortune 100. They didn't track shit.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Google is “an AI”, and has been for some time!, was my point ^.^

... And some of us would rather have old google

Check out Kagi, or Brave Search.

Some of us would rather have old Usenet, /., reddit & Digg!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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Nilay Patel has been talking about "Google Zero" - the moment when Google effectively stops sending any traffic to other sites - for a few years now: https://www.theverge.com/24167865/google-zero-search-crash-h...

How does google get the information to create an LLM-generated response without sending traffic to any other sites?

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Fighting back is stupid, these things are inevitable, and honestly probably for the best over the long-term.

Nothing is inevitable, and long-term effects of google's move are unknowable.

Well I’d like it to be inevitable.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Web search won't make shareholders happy. Agentic capabilities and AI-powered interactive features in the search experience - most definitely will. > You can still view traditional results only by selecting the “Web” tab in Google Search I think we should still get a couple of years of life from Google. This is enough time to figure out what to do next.

Their web search property declining in usage due to aggressive new competition also won’t make investors happy

That's a tomorrow problem. Fiduciary duty requires pleasing shareholders TODAY.
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