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Post by Glemllksdf »

MichaelRo wrote: post #619
cycomanic wrote: post #615

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No the government can't just revoke a visa because Trump doesn't like your face, the reasons must be based in law and there is the pesky thing called due process that needs to be followed. I am honestly flabbergasted that people think the government can just do willy billy.

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I have the feeling that this is simplifying something.

I do agree that if someone would come to my country on a visa for studing, I don't think its okay for them to protest stuff. It feels disrespectful even if i'm aligned with that persons politics.

On the other hand, i expect us all to have a acertain amount of personal freedom on our planet and protesting itself is part of this, same as free speech.

In this context of the USA: USA is a country grifted by us europeans. It has land, resources etc. Just because USA now fully formed, somehow I do have the feeling that I should be allowed to also become a USA citizien (not for the social system, USA is fucked) but for the reason of also benefiting from that land (great nature, lots of space, etc.).

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Post by Forgeties79 »

nomdep wrote: post #533
Forgeties79 wrote: post #506

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This is just a link to her LinkedIn. I don’t understand what I’m supposed to be looking for.

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This is a bizarre take and I don’t think we will find a good avenue for productive conversation here.

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

nullsanity wrote: post #589
Jimmc414 wrote: post #557

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The policy of applying US immigration enforcement actions against legal visa holders who have attended specific legal (US based) protests has been publicly reported and confirmed by many government officials and is unrelated to anyone trying to enter the country. Senior ICE officials have testified under oath in federal court that analysts were moved from counterterrorism, global trade, and cybercrime work to this gr…

Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? I think that's the definition of forgein interference.

> Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions?

Because the definition of what a "protest" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.

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Post by bavell »

Glemllksdf wrote: post #700
mattmaroon wrote: post #697

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“All” might be a stretch but the idea that they just do what they want regardless of what the courts say is just incorrect propaganda. And continuing to find creative ways to defy court orders is something every administration does. And my opinion of the administration is low also, I just don’t like the propaganda and have never understood why we need to make up things about them when there’s so much to dislike that…

Wasn't the tarrifs thing one of the things he did illegaly and thats why they are now getting paid back? Whats with the documents he put in his toilet? Destroying the east wing. Its too late now right but shouldn't he followed some procedure? I probably have plenty other examples but thats probablyh enough to get more insight. For me these cases feel like a mix of certain other parts should have steped in but have be…

Nope, the original tariffs were under IEEPA, then Supreme Court ruled they didn't have authority to use IEEPA, so they had to drop those tariffs and start working on refunds. It'd only have been illegal if they kept the tariffs after the ruling.

Lot of propaganda & emotions around this straightforward chain of events.

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Post by dgellow »

WalterBright wrote: post #55

I simply assume that everything that travels out of my home through a wire gets tracked and stored by the government. Everywhere you go, if your phone is in your pocket, you are being tracked and stored, and available to the government. Everywhere your car goes, is tracked and stored and available to the government. BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data.

They took pictures and videos of themselves, with geotracking, and uploaded to platforms that do not remove metadata

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Post by vel0city »

Gareth321 wrote: post #663
thuridas wrote: post #625

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Does this administration care to much about the law? A judge can rule something but they mostly keep doing the same thing. Not to mention the supreme court that is willing to let this happen.

> Does this administration care to much about the law? As a European my opinion of Trump could not be any lower, but it is my understanding that they have complied with all court orders to date (with some being contested all the way to the Supreme Court). They are certainly testing the authority limits of various courts and congressional processes, but they have complied with all legal processes to date.

This is far from reality. In truth the Trump administration has been ignoring court orders time and time again. Don't repeat lies.

> That does not end the Court’s concerns, however. Attached to this order is an appendix that identifies 96 court orders that ICE has violated in 74 cases. The extent of ICE’s noncompliance is almost certainly substantially understated. This list is confined to orders issued since January 1, 2026, and the list was hurriedly compiled by extraordinarily busy judges. Undoubtedly, mistakes were made, and orders that should have appeared on this list were omitted. This list should give pause to anyone—no matter his or her political beliefs—who cares about the rule of law. ICE has likely violated more court orders in January 2026 than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230...

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Post by cde-v »

refurb wrote: post #546
pyrale wrote: post #540

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To condone what happens to him, you must first condone that your government lists and identifies people attending opponent meetings. Whether the government waits for him to leave the country to violate his rights feels like a small detail in this issue. Also, if you intend to claim that us foreigners are free targets for any abhorent behaviour of your government, maybe you should rename your bill of rights a bill of…

Whoa! I’d slow down with the hypotheses, considering we have one side of the story. What we do know is that the US, like all other countries, has wide legal latitude on not allowing foreigners into the country. You can be denied entry for no more than a Facebook like of the wrong post.

Very big of you to hold off on judgement until judgement is irrelevant and you have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.
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