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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Its funny most ppl dont see the cycle:

Fashism -> War -> Democracy —> Fashism -> War -> Democracy

Change democracy to other stable situation and we look at last few thousend years of humans on Earth.

Rulling caste uses it the same way over and over. Profiting on each change.

TBH with current tech advancements it may be the moment we really should give out freedom of our choice to a smarter being like AGI.

Humans are too stupid to decide about ourselves.

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It’s interesting to read the discussion here through the lens of obligations vs rights. It would seem the rights are definitely winning.

Are you surprised that a forum full of people all-in hustle culture and the whole VC-startup grift is extremely selfish? This is not to say that the government should get blind faith, but some notions that the collective good has any value is alien to many people here. Libertarianism is a societal disease. "Fuck you got mine".

Collective good doesn’t necessarily mean the State, and not trusting the State doesn’t mean being an American-style right libertarian either.

It’s a common fallacy of performative US leftism that believes the world can be divided neatly into blue vs red.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Unsurprisingly when people here engage in serious politics beyond a desire to enrich themselves, those politics tend to take on a distinctly libertarian bent. I’m not sure what else people expect though, this is a very sheltered group with relatively limited skills outside of specific technical areas. To put it another way this forum skews selfish.

I miss the days when hackerdom reliably skewed selfish instead of fascist.

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Nobody's going to bring up the sexism? I thought feminism was for equality. Why then no complains of not having equal responsibility here? Just like when Ukraine did this, nobody cared. No complaints in the media at all. They always want more women in the offices too, never in the coal mines.

I wonder how the trans issue will work in this instance.

People who have "female" or "diverse" in their passport can be biologically male but are are not required to get the military permit.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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> Especially since women have largely abandoned their traditional duties and still kinda expect men to hold their end of the bargain. As far as I see, women still birth and raise children and take care of most of the household; they just also work in the addition. Don't know what you're talking about.

Birth rates among liberal women in almost all developed societies suggest otherwise. Women are doing double duty and doing both badly. Women are relatively and absolutely less happier than they were 50 years ago. So I'm having hard time believing that this new norm is a win for anyone.

The reality is that most women are simply not interested in raising more than two children per person. If this is undesirable from a societal perspective then they either need to be forced (which I hope you're not seriously suggesting) or the incentives to raise more children need to be increased (atm there are none except personal satisfaction) and the downsides need to be mitigated (without a stable career, women are wholly dependent on their spouse's income).

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #232

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Guess what, many jews self-reported themselves to the authorities just to follow the process and that led directly to their death. https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=42... Of course, this is old times now, but here is the same, there is no benefit to register, and you increase your risk to die. Don't do it.

It is not like they had a choice. The article is about 1939, the events were well progressed then. Only very few were able to hide themselves and stay hidden for years.

> It is not like they had a choice.

> very few were able to hide

Not sure what point you are trying to make. Does that justify the law and its consequences? Does that mean people who did not register were doing something wrong or stupid?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #636

Nobody's going to bring up the sexism? I thought feminism was for equality. Why then no complains of not having equal responsibility here? Just like when Ukraine did this, nobody cared. No complaints in the media at all. They always want more women in the offices too, never in the coal mines.

The US does not require women to register for the draft. And our current political leadership over the military is actively attempting to take women out of combat and leadership roles.

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Germany participated in the NATO military campaign/occupation of Afghanistan, including ground forces, naval activities and special operations units. Its seems a total of 150,000 German soldiers (and police officers?) were deployed overall (not at the same time of course); of them, 62 were killed and 249 wounded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_casualties... Germany was also directly involved in the…

Iran, Iraq, Syria, Vietnam? Hosting US forces in Germany is participating?

yes it is, how is that not obvious?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Shockingly sexist policy. And as per usual because its harmful to men no one cares.

In a scenario where you are losing a significant part of the population to war, it's better that it be men.

in a scenario where your country is on the verge of war, where will those women procreate? I imagine that those who can will leave the country ASAP
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