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Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by matkoniecz »

pembrook wrote: post #630
alterom wrote: post #346

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>hard to believe even Meta would do this intentionally). Hahahahahahahaha ZUCK: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard ZUCK: just ask ZUCK: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns FRIEND: what!? how’d you manage that one? ZUCK: people just submitted it ZUCK: i don’t know why ZUCK: they “trust me” ZUCK: dumb fucks Actual quote, BTW [1]. [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/09/20/the-face…

Now if only we could look up everything you said in chatrooms as a 19 year old and post the most inflammatory stuff on HN. I’m sure you’ve never said anything callous or snarky, and were a bastion of morality as a teenager.

Yes, I posted some stupid stuff as teenager and later.

I never in my life were mocking and making fun out of other people for trusting me, or equivalent.

I also never run company that knowingly ruined multitude of lives and social interactions in general.

> snarky

Snark is not a problem that people have with Mr. Zuckerberg.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by lewo »

OrangeMusic wrote: post #592
lewo wrote: post #575

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On the french trains, you can sit opposite someone else. I'm feeling really uncomfortable when this person scrolls on its phone, with the phone back camera pointing to me for hours. I sometime ask this person to hide the camera and they generally understand my feeling.

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Definitely not. But when someone looks at me, my gaze is drawn to that person, to say "hello" for instance. I have the same kind of feeling with a camera. (Maybe if i was living in a town, i would loose this reflex.)

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by nkrisc »

drawnwren wrote: post #371
alterom wrote: post #346

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>hard to believe even Meta would do this intentionally). Hahahahahahahaha ZUCK: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard ZUCK: just ask ZUCK: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns FRIEND: what!? how’d you manage that one? ZUCK: people just submitted it ZUCK: i don’t know why ZUCK: they “trust me” ZUCK: dumb fucks Actual quote, BTW [1]. [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/09/20/the-face…

As much as this is a damning quote, it is perhaps also damning that any time someone wants to smear zuck they have to reach 20 years into the past.

You would have a good point if what Meta is doing now wasn’t far worse than what Zuck himself is describing in those comments, all while Zuck has remained at the helm the entire time.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by ourmandave »

mentalgear wrote: post #638
zmmmmm wrote: post #194

I do think it's completely unacceptable if Meta makes the glasses unable to be used for routine functions without (a) other humans reviewing your private content and (b) AI training on your content. There needs to be total transparency to people when this is happening - these are absolutes. But I'm a bit confused by the article because it describes things that seem really unlikely given how the glasses work. They shi…

The Zuck being the Zuck, I wouldn't put it past him collecting data even if the cosmetic light is not on.

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Post by Findecanor »

zmmmmm wrote: post #194

I do think it's completely unacceptable if Meta makes the glasses unable to be used for routine functions without (a) other humans reviewing your private content and (b) AI training on your content. There needs to be total transparency to people when this is happening - these are absolutes. But I'm a bit confused by the article because it describes things that seem really unlikely given how the glasses work. They shi…

I find the root issue to be that what the glasses see is described as "content" in the first place.

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Post by dwighttk »

OrangeMusic wrote: post #658
echelon wrote: post #544

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I don't get how private businesses allow these. It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback. Is it because younger people don't care about privacy anymore?

Why would they disallow cameras on glasses but not cameras on phones, where it's just as easy to take pictures discreetly. Not to mention, hidden miniature cameras have existed for decades.

People using hidden miniature cameras should be shamed and punished when that is discovered just like the people using these glasses.

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Post by Findecanor »

greentea23 wrote: post #519
chwahoo wrote: post #271

I'll confess that I like my Meta Ray Ban glasses: I love using them to listen to podcasts at the pool/beach, while riding my bike, and it's cool to snap a quick picture of my kids without pulling out my phone. I wish this article (or Meta) were a bit clearer about the specific connection between the device settings and use and when humans get access to the images. My settings are: - [OFF] "Share additional data" - Sh…

I don't understand how a parent can be OK non-consenually uploading pictures of their children's real faces to an ad driven AI company famous for abusing people's data and manipulating children on their platforms.

It is because they don't understand the scope of the problem. People are inclined to think that other people who have treated them kindly mean well also in the long term.

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Post by edgyquant »

jcgrillo wrote: post #537
hananova wrote: post #532

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But there is total transparency though? Meta is using all your data, always. And the harder they say they’re not, the sneakier they’re doing it.

This is historically what we've had consumer protection regulations for. When they put lead, radium, asbestos, arsenic, or other poisons in consumer products the regulators step in and put a stop to it. It should be pretty clear at this point these consumer tech companies are no different--they're just producing poison. And it's not like there weren't signs, it's been like this for damn near a quarter century.

Our country is too divided to focus on things like this.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by edgyquant »

ElProlactin wrote: post #687
drawnwren wrote: post #371

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As much as this is a damning quote, it is perhaps also damning that any time someone wants to smear zuck they have to reach 20 years into the past.

It's not "smearing" to use Zuckerberg's own words in a discussion of his character, and this is far from the only example of things he's done or said in the past 20 years that would lead a reasonable person to call into question his moral fiber. It remains, however, a popular point of reference because: 1. It's fast and easy to read and digest. 2. The blunt language leaves little room for speculation about his feelin…

It doesn’t though, no one is the same person they were 20 years ago and every young person is makes a ton of mistakes
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