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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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It's also a very clear differentiator for them relative to Google, Facebook, and OpenAI, all of whom are clearly varying degrees of willing to sell themselves out for evil purposes.

Is making effective weapons evil?

A weapon is a tool.

Whether they are good or evil depends on the hands that hold it.

In good hands, weapons provide defense, deterrence, and protection.

In bad hands, weapons hurt the innocent, instill fear, and oppress.

The hands that wield them make all the difference.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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It isn't about commercial agreements, it's about patriotism. The national industry is supposed to submit to the military's wishes to the extent that they get compensated. Here it's a question or virtue. The Pentagon feels it isn't Anthropic to set boundaries as to how their tech is used (for defense) since it can't force its will, then it bans doing business with them.

>The national industry is supposed to submit to the military's wishes to the extent that they get compensated. According to whom?

He's reading the room.

No, not this room. The one with Hegseth in it.

Look at his other comments. He's not wrong.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Playing devil's advocate: if I did in fact grab one of my kitchen knives to defend myself against a violent intruder into my kitchen, I wouldn't expect to be banned from buying kitchen knives. I'm not sure this is still a useful analogy, though...

And if you grabbed the knife and went on a violent spree, I'd absolutely expect the knife manufacturer to refuse to sell to you anymore. The knife manufacturer isn't obligated to sell to you in either case, I'd expect them not to cut ties with you in the self defence scenario. But it is their choice.

The knife manufacturer would be more than happy to continue to sell to you, except for that minor little detail that you're in jail.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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"Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." This is authoritarian behavior. You're having trouble negotiating a contract, so instead of just canceling it - you basically ban all of F500 from doing business with that firm.

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To be clear, the sovereign is generally considered to be vested in Congress as representatives of the true sovereign, the people.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

Contracts typically have escape clauses, especially for govt work.

They will just have to recompete!

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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> if the directive had never been made public, would that blog post exist? You're ignoring the sequence of events on the ground. If there hadn't been any been any internal pushback from Anthropic, would the directive have ever been made public?

That's a fair point about sequencing, but it actually reinforces the argument rather than undermining it. If Anthropic pushed back internally, and that pushback is what led to the directive going public, then Anthropic had every reason to anticipate that this would become a public story. Which means the blog post wasn't a spontaneous act of transparency, it was a prepared response to a foreseeable escalation. That's more strategic rather than less so.

Internal pushback and public damage control aren't mutually exclusive. A company can genuinely disagree with a client's demands behind closed doors and simultaneously craft a public narrative designed to make itself look as good as possible once those disagreements surface. In fact, that's exactly what competent communications teams do, they plan for the scenario where private disputes become public, and they have messaging ready.

The real question isn't who went public first or why. It's whether Anthropic's stated position, "we support these military use cases but not those ones", reflects a durable ethical framework or a line drawn precisely where it needed to be to keep both the contracts and the brand intact. Nothing in the sequencing you've described answers that question. It just tells us Anthropic saw this coming, which, if anything, means the messaging was more carefully engineered, not less.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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and USA created Islamic terrorism that is plaguing the whole world

Surely you mean Zionist terrorism.

Both tbh. Unless you say that one is Britain's fault.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I mean the original name switch was much more "Orwellian manipulation" if anything changing it back to war is undoing the bullshit implications that everything it does is defense.

Surely the purpose of the organization is to defend the country? War seems more like the failure mode. The point here is that it was established by a law of Congress and so has an official name that should be respected until another law changes it.

Maybe defend it's interests certainly not just defend the nation itself.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Do you think that bad things happening is just hilarious in general? Do you like to see good behavior punished? I'm really trying to understand what you get out of making this comment. Also what happens when ... This doesn't happen? You just polluted the epistemic commons a bit more with some cynical bullshit sans consequence? Enough. I think it's time to start calling this garbage out when I see it.

Two things can be true at the same time. It can notionally be a “good” decision and also a straightforward act of Anthropic continuing their PR that they’re some sort of benevolent entity despite continuing to pursue a typical corporate capitalistic structure. It is what it is. The game is the game. But I’m not going to sit there and pretend their virtues are as pure of snow. I’m sorry that’s upset you.

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Anthropic specifically called out systems "that take humans out of the loop entirely and automate selecting and engaging targets". I take that to mean they don't want the military using Claude to decide who to kill. As a hyperbolic yet frankly realistic example, they don't want Claude to make a mistake and direct the military to kill innocent children accidentally identified as narco-terrorists. At least, that's the…

Right. Did the DoW ask for that? Or does Anthropic make a product that does that?

https://x.com/SeanParnellASW/status/2027072228777734474?s=20

Here's the Chief Pentagon Spokesman pointing to the same verbiage and reiterating they they won't agree to those terms of use.

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