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Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by LunaSea »

msla wrote: post #505
znkynz wrote: post #203

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What happens to your health insurance if you get too sick to work?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_and_Medical_Leave_Act_o... > The FMLA allows eligible employees to take up to 12 work weeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period to care for a new child, care for a seriously ill family member, or recover from a serious illness. There's limitations on that, but the common idea that Americans don't have healthcare is unfounded and appallingly ignorant.

So why is it that medical debt reached more than > $200B ?

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by Beretta_Vexee »

wdr1 wrote: post #516
softwaredoug wrote: post #113

Americans fail to appreciate a few things about our economy 1. We have a large homgoneous market where you can build a product and it’s expected it can succeed for hundreds of millions of Americans 2. EU is the easiest second market, and another step change of hundreds of millions of customers in a somewhat unified market 3. there’s not an easy 3rd economy that replaces EUs wealth, population, and comfort with Englis…

> 2. EU is the easiest second market, and another step change of hundreds of millions of customers in a somewhat unified market What about China? India?

To add to what has already been said:

- Business law is in its infancy and local courts excessively favour the Indian side. In the event of a dispute, enforcing the terms of the contract can be very complicated or even illusory.

- Banking and insurance services are complicated, slow and expensive.

- There is not one but many different sets of legislation per province. There are gaps in the legislation and it is necessary to go through a long compliance process based on the manufacturer's or supplier's legislation, involving translation, negotiation, etc.

- Each time there is a change in decision-makers, at least part of the process must be repeated.

I work for an energy company and we have a team that has been working on an Indian project for almost ten years, without the project really seeming to have progressed.

The Indian market is a bottomless pit if you don't have a very high-ranking political sponsor in the Indian government.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by Bayart »

tensor wrote: post #425
storystarling wrote: post #386

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It feels like France is actually leading on the infrastructure side of things right now. With Mistral and Hugging Face both in Paris, the open source AI ecosystem is pretty heavily concentrated there.

And OVH and Scaleway. Also Gandi.

Having worked extensively with OVH and Scaleway, I find it to be a far cry from what American hyperscalers offers. The cloud offering is just too thin and brittle as of now, though I think they will eventually get there because of the CLOUD Act which in the long term might prove to be a gigantic own-goal on the part of the US.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by 627467 »

It will mean little if the infrastructure is still dependent on volatile partners (and I'm bundling allies and adversaries in this).

The core problem is Europe has been very successful betting and building upon though choices made by others (eg. Cheap manufacture in China, cheap energy in Russia, cheap defense/capital from US, cheap manpower/migrants from developing countries...).

Europe from its high ground flaunts this model to the whole world ("look at our development metrics! Our social spending") while completely ignoring the sustainability and the costs bore by others and neglecting its own responsibilities.

And now everything is crashing down simultaneously.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by durkie »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #41
baal80spam wrote: post #40

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> Some are optimizing for better lives Of course. I just hope these people know that for example healthcare in Europe is by no means free.

My health insurance for a family of four in Spain is $2k/year. In the US, it was exceeding $25k/year with premiums, copays, deductibles, etc. While not free, it is accessible. There was a time in my life we had to decide in the middle of the night if we could afford to take one of our children to the ER in the US when they were a newborn. I will never have that feeling in Europe, and that is priceless. Tax me more, I…

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Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by Beretta_Vexee »

French report: The project presented is not new; it is a continuation of the Tixeo project (https://www.tixeo.com/en/secure-video-conferencing-solutions... video-conferencing-service-tixeocloud/trial-tixeocloud/), which was already the recommended solution for French government officials, public companies and all large companies required to process confidential or classified data via video conferencing.

Tixeo was fairly limited in its use and imposed on critical businesses (defence, nuclear, transport, energy, etc.). The aim is to extend the service to more areas, such as SMEs, universities, NGOs, etc., for all sensitive communications.

I don't think the project is intended to replace Zoom and Teams for the general public. Most public ministries use Teams and the Office suite.

French industries have been the target of quite a few cases of espionage by ‘advanced North American actors’. They have therefore been trying to distance themselves from US services for some time now (Google Tchap and Olvide).

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Post by Bayart »

johnsmith1840 wrote: post #546
bad_haircut72 wrote: post #308

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If this is some kind of move, fair play, but its ham fisted because rank and file westerners across the world have lost respect and faith in America, that wont be rebuilt by some other president. Nobody will want fighter jets etc controlled by America. Perhaps USA is fine with it but to me it feels severely damaging.

Twitter can think what it wants. The western alliance as of today is about as strong as its ever been. They are actively dismantling and destroying their enemies together one by one. Words matter little when US's alternative is actively supporting a war in europe.

> The western alliance as of today is about as strong as its ever been.

It's at its lowest point since the Suez crisis, to the point even historical US hawks (notably Poland) are starting to give it a side-eyed look.

I don't think you realize how far and how fast the discourse in Europe has shifted.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by LunaSea »

aerhardt wrote: post #243
earthnail wrote: post #222

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I moved my stuff to Hetzner. Obv I have no idea about your situation, but I found it fairly trivial for my stuff. But I can't figure out how to replace GSuite.

Well for one thing, call me a sell-out or accuse me of lacking craftsmanship, but I like my databases managed. Then also storage buckets, IAM, general cloud security and other niceties. And I don't think it's for a lack of skills, I know my way around a Linux box - it's just that I save so much time. I'll occasionally build small projects in a VPS (sometimes cramming the db in there too!) but I don't feel I can do it…

> Well for one thing, call me a sell-out or accuse me of lacking craftsmanship, but I like my databases managed.

I had the same worries and then we moved to OVH and Hetzner and had no issues.

AWS RDS is about 10x more expensive than bare metal with maybe 1/4th the disk performance.

Regarding operations I simply setup a primary and read replica together with a PGBackRest continuous archiving and backup solution to a S3 compatible storage service.

Has worked like a charm in the last two years and recreating the database is a breeze.

Our database is ~8 TB large.

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Post by Bayart »

solidsnack9000 wrote: post #543
oblio wrote: post #287

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> US: "stop killing innovation" EU: " more regulation" Have you ever stopped to think that maybe a large number of Europeans look at the lack of US regulation with disgust?

And a few innovative Europeans look on EU regulation with disgust and leave, taking their companies with them.

They're going to the US for the VC funds and the capital markets, which is America's great competitive advantage globally. In the few industries I went through (PaaS, Health, Finance) what I got was that the regulatory environment in Europe was welcome for being stable and clear, or existing at all in a few cases. There's been one case where I've seen regulation being an issue and preventing business from being fully conducted in Europe, and that was related to banking (in that instance that company had to be set up in Dubai).

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Post by kibwen »

qaq wrote: post #532
kibwen wrote: post #283

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> Even though it is acceptable these days Have you used Teams these days? If you think it's acceptable, I suggest that may be the Stockholm Syndrome kicking in.

I'd take teams over google chat any day.

And maybe you'd take gargling diarrhea over gargling battery acid, but the rest of us are looking on in disgust and pity either way.
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