Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

Post by nickff » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:22 PM UTC

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There was plenty of oppression against Jewish people in the Middle East before Israel became a country. Blame whomever you want, but the Jewish populations there were targeted for discriminatory taxation and various other forms of oppression.

The Jizya tax on non-muslims in many Islamic empires was never a "discriminatory" tax. This is a common anti-muslim trope and an example of distorting history by considering it through modern political lens. In most muslim empires, this tax was only imposed on non-muslims who wanted to be exempt from serving in the military but still be a citizen of the Islamic empire they were part of. Those who chose to join milita…

Post by 1attice » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:28 PM UTC

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I think when westerners like myself notice the disparity in response amongst western progressives between the Palestinian and Iranian situations, they're talking more from a social lens than the geopolitical one. A lot of my peers have been incredibly active on social media the last couple years supporting Palestinians. They've been mostly completely silent on Iran, the imbalance is notable.

…and they’ve been completely silent on the 20k per day, every day, who die from lack of access to clean and fresh water. People actually don’t really care, and almost all outrage about everything outside of lunch being served late is performative.

Post by krainboltgreene » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:29 PM UTC

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This is such an absurd analysis that it is bewildering anyone would post it.

Lifting the sanctions doesn't suddenly make their government, regulation or economy stable. Their biggest companies are all government-owned and famously corrupt and mismanaged. This is criticism given from most of the region when the topic of lifting sanctions comes up. Nothing I said is novel or extreme. In fact, we have direct evidence of what happens when those sanctions are lifted from when it was done under the…

Post by thisislife2 » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:37 PM UTC

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As for the ban on Jews by some Arab / muslim countries - remember that the west was actively encouraging Jews, with Zionist movements all over the world, to migrate to the middle-east and occupy muslim-Arab territory. Sure, it began with a narrow focus with only Palestine. But who knew where it would stop if it was successful? Most of these countries are former western colonies who immediately understood what the wes…

It is not as those Arab nations are some phenomenon of nature. The process of Arabization was, and perhaps is, itself one of settler colonialism and oppression. The fact that the colors of the caliphates are explicitly flown in areas outside of Arabia is proof enough of that.

Post by pydry » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:39 PM UTC

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The Soviet Union used to routinely criticize dissident Nobel Peace Prize winner Andrei Sakharov for having nothing to say about American atrocities. " I don't know anything about them, I don't care about them, what I talk about are Soviet atrocities. " he replied. I wonder how many of the people arguing that "more leftists should be out protesting Iran" agree with the Soviet Union's criticism of its dissident? My gue…

The Soviet Union was famous for engaging in whataboutism; they covered-up the true toll of Stalin’s purges (along with the human cost of their policies), and constantly oppressed Eastern Europe for almost 50 years. They are/were not a good example of anything.