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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by lovich »

ninkendo wrote: post #469
krapp wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me like you're the one with a strong negative emotional investment in this thread. I don't know what your bar for "reasonable" is but the entire top thread seems fine to me. It's certainly better than many discussions I've seen of LLMs or other controversial but technical subjects. In any case, I disagree that this thread, much less all "political" threads, deserve to be flagged by default. This community…

I have a strong emotional investment in what’s happening to my country. That’s why I’m getting upset. It has fuck all to do with HN. I’m getting upset about what’s happening with my country and predictably taking it out on other HN commenters, and other HN commenters are upset about what’s happening and are clearly taking it out on me. (I basically painted a big target on my forehead saying “I flagged this post” and…

I read through the Bible and multiple Buddhist teachings.

I didn’t find “hacker news” in any of it, least of all when it comes to turning the other cheek.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

xdennis wrote: post #695
noobermin wrote: post #127

Regarding just the headline, at this point it's not really about immigration, this has evolved into a soft civil conflict being waged for political reasons. The two people who have been killed so far were themselves citizens and at best were political dissidents. They were not themselves subject to detainment due to immigration status.

[flagged]

> But the other woman tried to flee and run over a cop. So that particular shooting was entirely justified

She didn't try to run over anyone, you can watch multiple videos of this. It's also my understanding that they had no basis for detaining her, as there was no reason to believe she was illegally in the United States.

Even if that wasn't so the use of lethal force is far beyond what would have been necessary.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

nullocator wrote: post #551
TheAlchemist wrote: post #509

Americans, where will you realize that the longer you wait, the worse it will get ? The whole country should be in the streets now. You guys are fast tracking your way into a dictatorship, and unfortunately you may drag the entire Western world with you. The videos from this are numerous and very clear about what happened. And yet, all the officials are telling that a guy is a domestic terrorist and approached ICE of…

The unfortunate truth I think is that no matter how many people might be with this idea of just "rising up" and taking back the country, america is is fucking massive and many cities and towns there is no noticeable ice or border patrol presence. So even if you can get people out and protesting at some common meaningless locations its going to be symbolic at best. If you want out-of-band change in the U.S. it will at…

All the towns where there's nothing happening don't need to be rising up though, surely, it only needs to happen in the major population centres.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

emchammer wrote: post #325
tkzed49 wrote: post #141

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mirror https://bsky.app/profile/alexip718.com/post/3md6uyjftvc2f

I do not comprehend why all these platforms act as if they are doing a favor with the censorship.

They're doing a favour to the regime

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Post by Hikikomori »

B1FIDO wrote: post #631
lovich wrote: post #371

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"sponsored"? Can you run through the rest of your script and get past the Soros bucks part, it's boring at this point.

https://youtu.be/3V65_L3sCMI?si=HushHA5YdZNJsUAk

Is this some advanced satire.

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Post by yongjik »

direwolf20 wrote: post #608
yongjik wrote: post #193

At the rate things are going, I wonder if America can hold together until the midterm. The Trump regime is acting like it wants a civil war. If anyone told me in 2024 that America may see its own Tiananmen, I'd have laughed, but I'm not so sure now. I can totally see something similar at a smaller scale, and millions of Americans defending it with "it was necessary to keep law and order."

Genuine question: is this not a civil war? If this isn't a civil war, what is the difference between this and a civil war?

Today, when Trump's goons kill a man you see it on the news.

When it becomes a war, your side will drop bombs, burn houses, and kill people every day. And you will cheer them on. Because the alternative is defeat and death.

War is a terrible thing, and Trump is steering America toward it.

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Post by worldsavior »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #509

Americans, where will you realize that the longer you wait, the worse it will get ? The whole country should be in the streets now. You guys are fast tracking your way into a dictatorship, and unfortunately you may drag the entire Western world with you. The videos from this are numerous and very clear about what happened. And yet, all the officials are telling that a guy is a domestic terrorist and approached ICE of…

I can't help but think there is some kind of agenda here...

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Post by slg »

defrost wrote: post #699
slg wrote: post #692

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Alex Pretti was a nurse. What power did he have? I'm not attributing ultimate power over the fate of the nation to you or HN. You are a tiny cog in a huge machine, but you're still a bigger cog than me. So I'm asking you to consider when you will use the power you do have. Current events should have us all considering that question

It's a mistake to think that deep pocket YC investors will suddenly become aware of current events that otherwise escaped their notice if only current event stories made it to "the front page of HN". Another mistake would be to think that [flagged] and down weighted submissions do not get many many eyeballs and that C-suits of large SV and other tech companies don't take part.

Every reminder that powerful people see that the status quo is unacceptable has value. It's also obvious that a post being flagged reduces the number of people who will see that post, that's the whole purpose of flagging.

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Post by mrtksn »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #472
mrtksn wrote: post #62

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It Turkey a current popular meme is an old tweet that says “I'm so fed up with politics that I say, 'Let me just focus on this instead,' and whatever that is, they'll come and fuck that up too. You won't even be able to breathe”. That’s what you will get by not talking politics. US is on the fast track to be like Turkey. Some of those ICE agents will kill some AI engineer’s father or mother who has the wrong accents,…

> > That’s what you will get by not talking politics. US is on the fast track to be like Turkey. On the contrary, if everybody is so focused on the National Politics contests as we've been ever since 2015 , it's only natural that the winner of that popularity contest becomes a demi God with unlimited powers (on top of what were already granted him by the very generous Constitution). It's only logic, the more followed…

following politics is half of the job, You also have to act on the issues that you care about. The problem with the Turks is that they just follow.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

int_19h wrote: post #675
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #359

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If the Right does end up defending this, I don't see how they are compatible with the USA that I was taught to believe in my whole life.

Ironically, all the major gun rights orgs have registered disapproval.

The NRA didn't.

https://x.com/NRA/status/2015224606680826205

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