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Re: Google Antigravity

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post #378

"Congratulations, you have been elevated to manager to agents." That's not exactly really where I hoped my career would lead. It's like managing junior developers, but without having nice people to work with.

OR - think about the junior developers being managers of agents, and you are still a manager of junior developers. This is not zero sum!

I am essentially in this exact role. The junior developers simply don't have the experience to evaluate the output of the agents. You wind up with a lot of slop in PRs. People can't justify why they did something. I've seen whole PRs closed, work redone, and opened anew because they were 70% garbage. Every other comment was asking "why is this here? it has nothing to do with the ticket."

Sadly, this is not sustainable and I am not sure what I'm going to do.

Re: Google Antigravity

#702
post #672

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15 years ago, every company had its own "BlahBlah Studio" IDE built on top of Eclipse. Now it's VSCode. Meanwhile, JetBrains IDEs are still the best, but remain unpopular outside of Android Studio.

I just checked and I don’t even have the JVM installed on my machine. It seems like Java is dead for consumer applications. Not saying that’s why they aren’t popular but I’m sure it doesn’t help.

IntelliJ IDEs bundle the JVM, so you don't need to install it separately.

Re: Google Antigravity

#703

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VS Code is technically an Electron app, but it's not the usual lazy resource hog implementation like Slack or something. A lot of work went into making it fast. I doubt you'll find many non-Electron full IDEs that are faster. Look at Visual Studio, that's using a nice native framework and it runs at the speed of fossilized molasses.

> many non-Electron full IDEs VSCode has even less features than Emacs, OOTB. Complaining about full IDEs slowness is fully irrelevant here. Full IDEs provide an end to end experience in implementing a project. Whatever you need, it's there. I think the only plugins I've installed on Jetbrains's ones is IdeaVim and I've never needed something else for XCode. It's like complaining about a factory's assembly line, sayi…

"Complaining about full IDEs slowness is fully irrelevant here. Full IDEs provide an end to end experience in implementing a project."

So? No excuse for a poor interactive experience.

Re: Google Antigravity

#704
post #403

I went ahead and downloaded it, it looks to be a VSCode fork very similar to Cursor, with support for the following models: - Gemini 3 Pro (High) - Gemini 3 Pro (Low) - Claude Sonnet 4.5 - Claude Sonnet 4.5 (Thinking) - GPT-OSS 120B (Medium)

Making a VSCode fork is probably the wrong direction at this point in time. The future of agentic coding should need less support for code editor related functionality, and could eventually primarily support viewing code rather than editing code. There's a lot more flexibility in UI starting from scratch, and personally I want to see a UI that allows flexible manipulation of context and code changes with multiple age…

GitHub is building a UI like this. I like it. I sometimes need the full IDE, but plenty of times don't. It's nice to be able to easily see what the agent is up to and converse with it in real-time while reviewing it's outputs.

Re: Google Antigravity

#705

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

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Re: Google Antigravity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why these forks don't build off Eclipse Theia. Is it because of the Eclipse license?

Just the Eclipse legacy and development approach perhaps. Eclipse is 24 years old and its codebase stems from VisualAge before that, so I imagine it's ... idiosyncratic. Probably the most successful thing built on OSGi, though I dont imagine Theia brought any of that along.

Eclipse Theia is based on VSCode, not the legacy Eclipse Java IDE.

Re: Google Antigravity

#708

I've seen "agent" and "agentic" so many times in the last few months that the usage of the term is quickly becoming one of my biggest pet peeves. The previous one was "enshittification", and I'm glad that one was a short-lived fad.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about enshittification being a fading fad. I'm seeing non-technical people start to use it now.

Short lived only in my corner of reality I suppose.

Re: Google Antigravity

#709

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

In the grand scheme of things, Microsoft had always spent more money on developer tooling than most other companies, even in the 90s.

Hence even the infamous Ballmer quote.

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