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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by drusepth »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #691
thomasahle wrote: post #379

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I also used Gemini 3 Pro Preview. It finished it 271s = 4m31s. Sadly, the answer was wrong. It also returned 8 "sources", like stackexchange.com, youtube.com, mpmath.org, ncert.nic.in, and kangaroo.org.pk, even though I specifically told it not to use websearch. Still a useful tool though. It definitely gets the majority of the insights. Prompt: https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

Why is this sad. You should bw rooting for these LLMs to be as bad as possible..

Generally, any expert hopes their tool/paintbrush/etc is as performant as possible.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by thejarren »

panarky wrote: post #697
lairv wrote: post #293

Out of curiosity, I gave it the latest project euler problem published on 11/16/2025, very likely out of the training data Gemini thought for 5m10s before giving me a python snippet that produced the correct answer. The leaderboard says that the 3 fastest human to solve this problem took 14min, 20min and 1h14min respectively Even thought I expect this sort of problem to very much be in the distribution of what the mo…

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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by ethmarks »

suddenlybananas wrote: post #656
ethmarks wrote: post #243

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The point of prediction markets isn't to be fair. They are not the stock market. The point of prediction markets is to predict. They provide a monetary incentive for people who are good at predicting stuff. Whether that's due to luck, analysis, insider knowledge, or the ability to influence the result is irrelevant. If you don't want to participate in an unfair market, don't participate in prediction markets.

That argument works for insider training too.

And? Insider trading is bad because it's unfair, and the stock market is supposed to be fair. Prediction markets are not fair. If you are looking for a fair market, prediction markets are not that. Insider trading is accepted and encouraged in prediction markets because it makes the predictions more accurate, which is the entire point.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #686
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #652

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Not sure what you mean here, but the only real jobs at risk from AI right now are middle/upper management. Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI. Any company claiming this is the case is trying to cover up bad decisions. "Were automating with AI" sounds better to investors than "We over hired and now need to downsize" or "We made some bad market bets, now need to free up cash flow"

"Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI." are you insane??? big tech literally make one of the most biggest layoff for the past few months

That's because of overhiring and other non-ai related reasons (i.e. Higher interest rates means less VC funding available).

In reality, getting AI to do actual human work, as of the moment, takes much more effort and cost than you get back in cost savings. These companies will claim they are using AI, even if its just a few engineers using Windsurf.

The companies claim AI is the reason they laid off engineers to make it look like they're innovating, not downsizing, which makes them look better in the eyes of investors and shareholders.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #677
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean here, but the only real jobs at risk from AI right now are middle/upper management. Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI. Any company claiming this is the case is trying to cover up bad decisions. "Were automating with AI" sounds better to investors than "We over hired and now need to downsize" or "We made some bad market bets, now need to free up cash flow"

> Not sure what you mean here, but the only real jobs at risk from AI right now are middle/upper management. > Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI. Any company claiming this is the case is trying to cover up bad decisions. I don't suppose these assertions are based on anything. If "AI" reduces the amount of time an engineer spends writing crud, boilerplate, test cases, random scripts, etc., and…

It does improve productivity, just like a good IDE. But engineers didn't get replaced by IDEs and they haven't yet been replaced by AI.

By the time its good enough to replace actual engineers, any job done in front of a computer will be at risk. I'm hoping that will happen at the same time as AI embodiment in robots, then every job will be automated, not just computer based ones.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by onoesworkacct »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #691
thomasahle wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also used Gemini 3 Pro Preview. It finished it 271s = 4m31s. Sadly, the answer was wrong. It also returned 8 "sources", like stackexchange.com, youtube.com, mpmath.org, ncert.nic.in, and kangaroo.org.pk, even though I specifically told it not to use websearch. Still a useful tool though. It definitely gets the majority of the insights. Prompt: https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

Why is this sad. You should bw rooting for these LLMs to be as bad as possible..

That ship has sailed long ago.

I'm rooting for biological cognitive enhancement through gene editing or whatever other crazy shit. I do not want to have some corporation's AI chip in my brain.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by judahmeek »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #677
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean here, but the only real jobs at risk from AI right now are middle/upper management. Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI. Any company claiming this is the case is trying to cover up bad decisions. "Were automating with AI" sounds better to investors than "We over hired and now need to downsize" or "We made some bad market bets, now need to free up cash flow"

> Not sure what you mean here, but the only real jobs at risk from AI right now are middle/upper management. > Not a single engineer has ever been laid off because of AI. Any company claiming this is the case is trying to cover up bad decisions. I don't suppose these assertions are based on anything. If "AI" reduces the amount of time an engineer spends writing crud, boilerplate, test cases, random scripts, etc., and…

> Does AI result in greater productivity for engineers, and does greater productivity per person mean demand can be satisfied with fewer people?

Between the disagreements regarding performance metrics, the fact that AI will happily increase its own scope of work as well as facilitate increasing any task, sprint, or projects scope of work, and Jevons Paradox, the world may never know the answer to either of these questions.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by [deleted] »

onoesworkacct wrote: post #707
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #691

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Why is this sad. You should bw rooting for these LLMs to be as bad as possible..

That ship has sailed long ago. I'm rooting for biological cognitive enhancement through gene editing or whatever other crazy shit. I do not want to have some corporation's AI chip in my brain.

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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by TechDebtDevin »

MaximusLegroom wrote: post #700
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #691

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Why is this sad. You should bw rooting for these LLMs to be as bad as possible..

Rooting is useless. We should be taking conscious action to reduce the bosses' manipulation of our lives and society. We will not be saved by hoping to sabotage a genuinely useful technology.

How is it useful other than for people making money off token outout. Continue to fry your brain.
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