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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by array_key_first »

landl0rd wrote: post #620
al_borland wrote: post #499

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I find photos and videos to both be invasive and unwanted. I’ve been a member and gyms where the owner will start taking videos and pictures of the class that ultimately end up on social media or in marketing material. I’m not ok with it and I get incredible uncomfortable when I’m in some weird position to do an exercise and a camera starts heading my way. Any time an unwanted camera is around there is some level of…

Classes are a different story, but at least for the legion of would-be gymfluencers that show up in gyms frequented by us zoomers, there's an easy solution: tell them to please not film you. If they don't comply, mess up their video. Deliberately walk across the camera. Deliberately get in the way. Take the machine against which they're resting a cell phone and start using it. Make funny faces. Whatever. More people…

It is downright dangerous to deliberately mess up their videos.

Their fans are rabid. They will find you, and they will ruin your life. The Internet isn't just a funny little place anymore. People get doxed.

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Post by array_key_first »

scotty79 wrote: post #640
ilikecakeandpie wrote: post #559

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Young girls are killing themselves every day over something you're saying "who cares" about

Go after the people who make young girls think it's something they should do in that situation.

The people making them consider suicide are the people snapping creepy shots of them and posting it online.

This isnt rocket science guys, why are we all acting stupid.

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Post by tavavex »

haskellshill wrote: post #58
Ekaros wrote: post #25

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I think even better option is some type of public opt-in. Maybe purple or green screen lanyard. Publishing material of anyone without one would not be allowed. Doesn't seem too big ask to edit out anyone who has not opted-in. Especially in age of AI that should make it trivial.

Sorry, but why even care about this? Is it an invasion of your privacy if strangers see you walking down the street? If no, how is strangers seeing you walking down the street in the background of some youtube video a privacy violation??

It's the same reason why people are okay being carded, but not okay with submitting their ID digitally to be recorded and retained forever.

Meeting people in public has an obvious, logical bound. Being recorded does not. When you pass by someone in public, you're one of a thousand - passers-by see you once and then never again, they don't permanently remember you or what you did, no one but the people who know you care in the slightest.

When you get recorded, the data now exists forever, backed up in several places and basically impossible to get rid of. Most importantly, you can't ever know what will happen to this data in the future once it's there. Unlike meeting people in public, the internet doesn't forget. If in 20 years, someone puts up a service that let people upload a picture of your face and have it return a dossier with every bit of video you've ever appeared in, you have no recourse or say in the matter. It's "public data" after all, right? Basically equivalent to just being in the public!

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Post by verisimi »

collingreen wrote: post #626
worik wrote: post #613

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Better still, pay people for the use of their image in advertising Always

Right? Somehow we've let corporations (which arent even a real life thing! They are just groups of people!) be entitled to huge swaths of our lives. You want to use my image for your marketing because you don't want to pay models? Gtfo of here! What an insane thing to do to customers.

It's almost like eroding privacy is a shared goal of corporations and government, and that both are fine with endlessly tormenting and selling out their customers/those they represent. It's as if they are the common person's adversaries rather and aren't helping or providing a service as they claim.

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Post by scotty79 »

array_key_first wrote: post #702
scotty79 wrote: post #640

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Go after the people who make young girls think it's something they should do in that situation.

The people making them consider suicide are the people snapping creepy shots of them and posting it online. This isnt rocket science guys, why are we all acting stupid.

Do other apes want to kill themselves when their photos with no clothes on are taken? If not then it's some kind of sick culture that makes humans think in this manner. Fix that. It will need to get fixed eventually because technology won't go back. It will go forward faster and faster.

Even the richest man on earth's (one of them) solution to related problems is a tall hedge around his property that he gets fined for. There ain't no going back.

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Post by scotty79 »

scotty79 wrote: post #638
soiltype wrote: post #606

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This comment doesn't engage with the topic at all - you've just used "the free market" as a pass to avoid any meaningful discussion of privacy, consent, and social contracts in the digital age. If your "solution" is literally "tough luck" (we both know "no-recording" airsoft events are extremely unlikely to exist) - what has this added to the conversation?

> we both know "no-recording" airsoft events are extremely unlikely to exist Let's assume it's true. What does it mean? That pretending to ruthlessly murder people while not being recorded is a niche kink and society doesn't owe this guy any special accomodations. Thanks to the internet, which publishing prowess he abhors, I'm sure, this guy will still be able to find group of fellow degenerates so he can have fun wi…

One more thing. You don't affect current social sensibilities with a blog post. Society is a function of technology. Want privacy? Nothing short of inventing some privacy tech will get you that.

I think for airsoft a facemask and pseudonym will do so you don't even need to invent anything, just apply it.

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Post by kgwgk »

OJFord wrote: post #676
kgwgk wrote: post #458

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>> The platypus is a special animal because it lays eggs but nurses its young with milk. > I hear chickens lay eggs, too?

No. I just thought it was amusing/redundant to describe the UK as among the Anglo-Saxon sphere; your mock example is irrelevant - the point of mine was that 'US culture dominates the USA' is obvious, I wasn't just... I don't even understand what you think I was doing, just stating some random other fact?

You’re right. My comment is irrelevant (I didn’t read yours carefully enough) and the phrasing of the original one was somewhat amusing.

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Post by scotty79 »

chb wrote: post #438
notatoad wrote: post #378

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I think the context of the original article is important: at an airsoft range, you’re on private property. You’ve signed a waiver to be there, there’s already rules to follow. Having formal rules for filming would be a totally reasonable and practical thing to do. Just like some gyms are accommodating to people filming TikTok’s and some aren’t, an airsoft range could have camera or no camera days, if that was somethi…

This. People should either be banned from filming at the private site, or be required to agree to some form of consent seeking.

Or required to agree to be filmed.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by scotty79 »

ibejoeb wrote: post #379
jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

Well the majority of the facilities are private land, right, not public, right? Organize formal sessions during which photography is prohibited. If you don't get any takers, the sport might have left you behind.

> during which photography is prohibited

or expressly allowed, so that this dude knows not to go there

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