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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by npc_anon »

jjani wrote: post #504
jm4 wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blame the idiots who abused it. Like that guy who posted a video a couple weeks ago where he had like 6 instances going nonstop and he was controlling it with his voice. There was some other project posted recently that was queuing up requests so that you could hit the limits in every time block. I've seen reddit posts where people were looking for others to share team accounts. It's always the morons who ruin a good…

Such abusers are very rarely a whole 5% of accounts, almost certainly <=2%.

In a recent tweet the company gave an example of a user running Claude 24/7 costing them "tens of thousands of dollars".

For any such users it requires hundreds if not thousands of "normal" users just to break even.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Inufu »

social_quotient wrote: post #617

I love Claude Code, but Anthropic’s recent messaging is all over the map. 1- “More throughput” on the API, but stealth caps in the UI - On Jun 19 Anthropic told devs the API now supports higher per-minute throughput and larger batch sizes, touting this as proof the underlying infra is scaling. Yay!?? - A week later they roll out weekly hard stops on the $100/$200 “Max” plans — affecting up to 5 % of all users by thei…

You can use Claude Code with your own API key if you want to use more tokens than included in the Pro / Max plans.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by bananapub »

sneak wrote: post #514
bananapub wrote: post #439

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they already do, you can give claude code an API key and it charges per token. this entire thread is people whinging about the "you get some reasonable use for a flat fee" product having the "reasonable use" level capped a bit at the extreme edge.

No, I mean, a one-click (or no-click) upgrade path. Having to hit a wall and then go get your API key and stuff sounds like a pain. It should just ask you if you want to switch to usage-based pricing when you hit the limit.

"no click" is insane, people pay $20/$100/$200 a month to have predictable bills, silently charging them unlimited money when you run out of quota is ridiculous.

as to upgrade path, when you use up your quota, it tells you you can type /upgrade to switch to per-token API key billing.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by 3836293648 »

epolanski wrote: post #567
3836293648 wrote: post #445

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For the industry as a whole it absolutely does. And for the individual it absolutely does kill your ability to do it unless you actually do practice. And yes, the goal might be to only use it for boilerplate or first draft. But that's today, people are lazy, just wait for the you of tomorrow

> And for the individual it absolutely does kill your ability to do it unless you actually do practice. Just because you state it, it doesn't make it true. I could tell you that taking buses or robotaxis doesn't change a bit your ability to drive.

Are you seriously claiming that not driving has no affect on your ability to drive?

Taking a bus sometimes is fine, but that is missing literally the entire point that I made.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by social_quotient »

Inufu wrote: post #702
social_quotient wrote: post #617

I love Claude Code, but Anthropic’s recent messaging is all over the map. 1- “More throughput” on the API, but stealth caps in the UI - On Jun 19 Anthropic told devs the API now supports higher per-minute throughput and larger batch sizes, touting this as proof the underlying infra is scaling. Yay!?? - A week later they roll out weekly hard stops on the $100/$200 “Max” plans — affecting up to 5 % of all users by thei…

You can use Claude Code with your own API key if you want to use more tokens than included in the Pro / Max plans.

Yeah I get that, I’m not “stuck” it’s that I don’t think the comms make sense and it’s troubling none of these teams have figured out a pricing model that isn’t a rug pull. If all of these ai llm coders were priced right, they would be out of the hands of many of the operators that are not dependent users. It’s got a bait and switch feel to it. I’ll deal with it. It’s a good product, I just feel like we deserve better and that these guys are smarter than this.

Can you imagine if AWS pulled half of these tricks with cloud services as a subscription not tethered to usage? They wait for you to move all of your infrastructure to them (to the detriment of their competitors) and then … oh we figured out we can’t do business like this, we need to charge based on XYZ… we are all adults and it’s our job to deal with it or move on but… something doesn’t smell right and that’s the problem.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by menaerus »

colonCapitalDee wrote: post #96
flashgordon wrote: post #64

Ok I really really have to figure out how to have a local setup of the open-source LLMs. I know i know - the "fixed costs" are high. But I have a strong feeling being able to setup local LLMs (and the rig for it) is the next build-your-own-PC phase. All I want is a coding agent and the grunt power to run it locally. Everything else Il build (generate) with it. I see so many folks claiming crazy hardware rigs and perf…

You should consider self-hosting in the cloud. When you start coding run a script that spins up a new VM and loads the LLM of your choice, then run another script to spin it back down when you're done. For intermittent use this works great and is much cheaper than buying your own hardware, plus it's future proof. It does admittedly lack the cool factor of truly running locally though.

Too expensive from what I have seen - price for reasonably large GPU rigs that can host medium to large models is anywhere between ~5$/hr to ~9$/hr. That's ~40$-72$ for 8-hour working day or ~800$-1500$ for ~20 working days in a month. That's ~1000$ a month in average. This doesn't math for me.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by beefnugs »

rmujica wrote: post #108
andruby wrote: post #36

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Unlimited works well for everything that is “too cheap to meter”. Internet, text messages, etc are roughly that: the direct costs are so cheap. That’s not the case with LLM’s at this moment. There are significant direct costs to each long-running agent.

Internet and SMS used to be expensive and metered until they weren't thanks to technological advances and expanded use. I think LLMs will follow the same path, maybe on a shorter timespan.

Isn't it the exact opposite? No one is making profit yet, it is a mad dash to monopolize the market, it has to get more expensive to ever turn profit, so the screws will turn

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by unsupp0rted »

forty wrote: post #684
unsupp0rted wrote: post #659

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> and sacrifice 30% of everything they ever produce to Apple In exchange for 500% more paid users

The users would exist even if Apple did not exist wouldn't they?

No, they wouldn’t.

Apple largely makes paying users exist that otherwise wouldn’t be there.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by karthikkolli »

bugglebeetle wrote: post #692
virtualritz wrote: post #604

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Not if you write Rust. From regularly producing code that has unbalanced braces or quote characters somewhere to destroying well working code. It also easily gets into loops where it can't solve a problem, comes up with a half-working solution A, throws it away, comes up with B, then C, then goes back to A etc. I run Gemini Pro from within CC but I only use it for analysis and planning for which it is better than Cla…

Are you saying Claude is better at writing Rust or Gemini? Or Gemini in Gemini CLI? Not following. In my experience, Gemini 2.5 PRO is better at writing Rust overall.

My experience is Claude is better at writing rust than Gemini. Gemini cli gets confused easily. But has good higher level picture. In my use case where Gemini is the architect, it even provides full code changes to claude (does not directly compile most of the time, misses move of structs) and claude makes those changes. It works better for me that way.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by ScammedMaxUser »

Hey Anthropic - You're a bunch of incompetent greedy bastards who can't run a business without screwing over your own paying customers. Your "less than 5%" bullshit fooled nobody, your infrastructure is garbage (7 outages in a month?), and your CEO is probably too busy counting money to notice you're about to get sued into oblivion. Maybe next time don't bite the hand that feeds you, dipshits. We're $200/month customers, not your beta testers for your shitty capacity planning.
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