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Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

pear01 wrote: post #542
gitt67887yt7bg wrote: post #525

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The real debate has nothing to do with porn. The only reason this started with porn, is because they knew they would get away with taking over the world while everybody is distracted by an unrelated debate. The debate is weather or not credit card providers should ever be able to blackmail independent companies, for any reason they feel like. I say no.

Should the government be able to blackmail credit card companies? Do you really think the credit card companies care where you spend your money? All they want you to do is spend more. They are trying to get out ahead of your own fellow citizens (and their government) who agree with more "censorship" and, at least in this regard, more state control. Unless you have a solution for this strain of American politics focus…

>Should the government be able to blackmail credit card companies?

It's called regulations, not blackmail, and yest the government should, because it's accountable to its people, meanwhile CC companies are not. Everything all companies are allowed to to is regulated by the government. Companies only exist at the mercy of the government, otherwise angry mobs can break in and ransack the place.

> Do you really think the credit card companies care where you spend your money?

Obviously they do care, when you see their rulings on this matter they care very much(did you not read the articles before commenting?), otherwise they wouldn't be pushing censorship rules on sellers. Or more specific they care about activists complaining how CC companies let you spend your money.

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #348
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #247

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>Religion and taboo often exist for a reason, because endless self gratification does not lead to flourishing. So then why aren't those activists going after Instagram, TicTok, X/Twitter, etc. you know, the OG spyware, brain rot and anxiety inducing companies, because that would actually benefit society and not too many people would mourn their loss. Why are they instead going after a dozen random horny video games n…

It sounds more strategic than performative. Surely if they can set precedents against weaker opponents then they stand more chance against stronger opponents. Though Steam is not weak. But small-time game devs probably don't care to fight unless they're making bank.

Those companies have been alive for a long time. Where's the proof they're going after them?

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

reaperducer wrote: post #378
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #247

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>Religion and taboo often exist for a reason, because endless self gratification does not lead to flourishing. So then why aren't those activists going after Instagram, TicTok, X/Twitter, etc. you know, the OG spyware, brain rot and anxiety inducing companies, because that would actually benefit society and not too many people would mourn their loss. Why are they instead going after a dozen random horny video games n…

So then why aren't those activists going after Instagram, TicTok, X/Twitter, etc. you know, the OG spyware, brain rot and anxiety inducing companies What makes you think they aren't? Because it hasn't been discussed in the HN bubble?

>What makes you think they aren't? Because it hasn't been discussed in the HN bubble?

Maybe post some proof that they are if you wanna make this argument.

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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righthand wrote: post #20
magicmicah85 wrote: post #14

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Cryptocurrency is the only way I see this working.

Cryptocurrency is a nice idea but there are and have always been too many gas fees for anyone to sensibly use it. I want to buy something not support everyone that get their hands in my transaction chain. The US government can break up the duopoly and open up payments processing federally. That’s worth the investment than that pipe dream of a global, frictionless cryptocurrency.

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Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by _Algernon_ »

danielvaughn wrote: post #260

imo nothing wrong with a platform deciding what content it wants to host. But there’s also nothing wrong with allowing this type of content. Who wants to help me build an uncensored game distribution platform? We could call it Steamy.

The mistake is thinking about payment processors as a "platform". They're not. They're critical infrastructure operating in an environment with low competition, and them denying service — beyond what is illegal within a certain jurisdiction — is more a kin to your electricity company denying service because they don't like that you use their electricity to power a device to watch porn. I think everyone would agree that to be crazy.

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

can16358p wrote: post #105

What is wrong with these people who try to block certain content? Don't like porn? Don't buy it. Simple as that. No one, including governments or payment processors, should be in the position to decide whether a platform can sell something or not. I wish there was a payment processor who was brave enough to say a big fucking NO to censorship.

The explanation is simple: they don't want easy revenue streams for people. You want to earn some side income, go F yourself. If you look around, and want to earn a few dollars, what can you do? Literally nothing. And this keeps continuing.

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

ben_w wrote: post #241
can16358p wrote: post #105

What is wrong with these people who try to block certain content? Don't like porn? Don't buy it. Simple as that. No one, including governments or payment processors, should be in the position to decide whether a platform can sell something or not. I wish there was a payment processor who was brave enough to say a big fucking NO to censorship.

> Don't like porn? Don't buy it. Simple as that. The claim isn't "we don't like it", the claim is "this is damaging to society". I don't agree with such things in many cases (and many people disagree with me when I'm the one saying something is damaging to society), but it's important to note the difference or you will always be arguing against something other than their claim. > No one, including governments or paym…

No, this is killing revenue streams for people. You should be under a company to earn money. The problem is, more stupid the general populace is, more stricter rules will be introduced, otherwise you cannot keep the herd together.

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Post by Aerroon »

creer wrote: post #625
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #427

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Similarly, if you don't like something, you shouldn't have to sell it. Or host it. Or process payments for it.

> you shouldn't have to sell it [etc] Until you abuse your market power. See Apple store vs adult content, see credit card companies vs an endless list of obsessions.

And if you do, your monopoly gets broken apart.

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Post by Aerroon »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #425
can16358p wrote: post #105

What is wrong with these people who try to block certain content? Don't like porn? Don't buy it. Simple as that. No one, including governments or payment processors, should be in the position to decide whether a platform can sell something or not. I wish there was a payment processor who was brave enough to say a big fucking NO to censorship.

You know. I used to be all about what you're going for. But I realized that porn to a certain extent is like cocaine. It's possibly one of the drivers for world wide declining population. Tons of dudes satisfying themselves without the urge to go out and do the real thing. There's growing science about this too. I don't like the conservative angle which is to be "proper" or it's against god, but from the scientific s…

>It's possibly one of the drivers for world wide declining population.

Porn is illegal in South Korea, yet it's the country with the lowest fertility rate. If anything, this suggests a reverse of the correlation.

Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope

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Post by Aerroon »

DSingularity wrote: post #669
ninetyninenine wrote: post #425

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You know. I used to be all about what you're going for. But I realized that porn to a certain extent is like cocaine. It's possibly one of the drivers for world wide declining population. Tons of dudes satisfying themselves without the urge to go out and do the real thing. There's growing science about this too. I don't like the conservative angle which is to be "proper" or it's against god, but from the scientific s…

Population is declining for some societies but not others. The older I get the more I start to believe that industrialization and pervasive technological adoption have come with a cost to humanity that maybe we don’t want to bear.

I think it's declining across the board. Some societies just haven't caught up to the decline yet. This is why immigration will never solve the problem either.
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