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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by onion2k »

pyrale wrote: post #643
brookst wrote: post #273

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Consumers never really pick products for ideological reasons, no matter how galling that is to ideologues

Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

Consumers pick _largely_ based on cost and features, with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second. However, consumers can only pick an option from choices they've heard of. Advertising is about getting into the list (and influencing choice a bit by demonstrating the brand image); the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by paulluuk »

qoez wrote: post #700
al_borland wrote: post #66

Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.

I just tried firefox because of this update but I had to switch back because it's so slow. Sacrificing competitive advantage stings too much to much just for this.

Interesting, I also just installed Firefox because of OPs comment, and I'm amazed at how much faster it is then Chrome.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by carlosjobim »

JimDabell wrote: post #673
carlosjobim wrote: post #666

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> Firstly, a lot of web developers have stopped caring about the standards process. Whatever functionality Google adds is their definition of “the web”. Businesses who hire such web developers will lose huge amounts of sales, since 90% of visitors are on mobile and half of those are on Safari.

How do you think that’s going to play out once Apple are legally barred from mandating WebKit on iOS?

I think most people will continue using the default Safari browser.

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Post by kayodelycaon »

paulluuk wrote: post #703
qoez wrote: post #700

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I just tried firefox because of this update but I had to switch back because it's so slow. Sacrificing competitive advantage stings too much to much just for this.

Interesting, I also just installed Firefox because of OPs comment, and I'm amazed at how much faster it is then Chrome.

I’ve run across several websites that won’t load in Safari but work great in Chrome.

One of them is my router.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by owebmaster »

grantith wrote: post #502
hannofcart wrote: post #396

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+1 to this. This is probably the only thing that keeps me from ditching Chrome/Brave and going back to Firefox.

Floorp is a popular Firefox fork with PWAs enabled.

Thanks! Just migrated to floorp.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by krade »

crazygringo wrote: post #64

> Adblockers basically need webRequestBlocking to function properly. Pretty convenient (cough cough) for a company that makes most of its revenue from ads to be removing that. Why does this keep getting repeated? It's not true. Anyone can use uBlock Origin Lite with Chrome, and manifest v3. It doesn't just work fine, it works great. I can't tell any difference from the old uBlock Origin in terms of blocking, but it's…

UBO Lite doesn't support cosmetic filters or custom rules.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by IshKebab »

userbinator wrote: post #427
deryilz wrote: post #165

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Author here, sorry. I don't think any open-source extension (especially large adblockers with millions of users) could actually get away with using this bug, because Google is paying close attention to them. It would've been patched immediately either way.

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He may be young but it seems like he has already learnt not to be patronising and wrong.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by nomendos »

Stop using Chrome. (i.e. as main browser I use Firefox which with containers is unmatched and Brave for any websites that I used Chrome in the past mainly for faster JS, while speed is +/- per bench) This could not have much effect on Google in the beginning (technically informed users first), but at some point it can (and I predict will, as technical literacy and privacy awareness is increasing, plus greed and productization of user data does have limits..) be avalanche moment. It will take variable time due to many variables, but is inevitability (i.e. universe law of "optimal path"). In my opinion, Google has miscalculated with the move to obsolete MV2 (masking it as "security" adds to dishonesty and consequent distrust, which is the opposite from the original Google's founding principles)

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by Etheryte »

const_cast wrote: post #185
tech234a wrote: post #169

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Actually there are several adblockers available for Safari on iOS; the functionality was introduced in 2015. Adblock Plus and Adguard are some of the larger extensions available, and now uBlock Origin Lite is now being beta tested for Safari on iOS.

I've never used these, but if I had to guess: these probably don't have the same power as full Manifest V2 extensions. Also names like "Adblock Plus" scare me. I don't want someone I don't trust getting my web activity.

You don't have to guess, they're as capable as MV2 and AdGuard has been around for a long time.
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