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I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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I feel like the biggest problem with my attempts to make friends is that I don't have hobbies, interesting opinions, or "personality", put it a little blunt, can a club fix that?

No. The first step is finding a hobby that doesn't put you in front of a screen all day, then finding like-minded people who meet offline to discuss or do that hobby.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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I think we (hacker news community) can make a difference in dating industry by creating an open-source free to use dating app. Same quality as Hinge/Bumble but free of cost and free of algorithm manipulation. I have been thinking about it for a while. I am a software engineer but doing this requires a massive group effort. Maybe let's chat about it. amirhesamyan [at] gmail.com

Women don't care about open-source or free software. They want an app that's popular and easy to use on their phones. Bumble, Hinge, and Tinder have concerned that market.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Interesting! All of my best friends came from going through the same experience together. Totally agree on that. But that experience was high school or college. What experience can adult men (25+) go through that is enough to build a lasting friendship? That consistent, shared experience what I'm trying to build. But I can appreciate the feedback that it comes across as "auditioning" as that's not the point. The goal…

== What experience can adult men (25+) go through that is enough to build a lasting friendship?== Maybe fatherhood. I’ve had some of that experience with friends I’ve made through my kid’s preschool. This week I read an article about a local club for new fathers in Chicago. Kinda of a similar concept, friendship through shared experience. https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment-culture/2025/05/2...

I think you are right - I am a total fucking weirdo, irredeemably strange, but as soon as I had children suddenly I could talk to other dads. Unfortunately, men cannot yet reproduce clonally.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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“Solve the straight male loneliness epidemic.” FTFY. Gay men have many more community options. Not sure why, but we just do togetherness inherently. Glad to see this though. It can only be solved by the people in the epidemic but it only takes the effort of a handful of organizers in the community/town/city to jumpstart events and hit critical mass. I’ve organized things on meetup and it takes persistence. Good luck!

> Gay men have many more community options. Not sure why, but we just do togetherness inherently. How much of that is motivated by dating and hooking up?

I would guess its more like if you want to meet any other gay men you have to work at it because you are a minority. Being in a minority does engender some comradery all by itself.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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This idea appears every once in awhile, as it’s obviously a major issue in modern life. The interesting thing though is how the solution is always location-agnostic. By that I mean it’s never really about a specific cafe or restaurant or soccer field, it’s always an app or service that organizes people to show up in various places. I bring this up because if you look at places that had lively social activities a few…

sounds like someone was never a foursquare mayor :)

pokemon go was a notable example that got people out of the house (and sometimes into adventure..)

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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I don't agree. If you choose the right club you don't have to conform and you can just be yourself. Especially in the cities there's a scene for everyone. In the countryside it's slim pickings of course so you do have to conform. Maybe that's one of the reason people in small towns are so different, the social dynamic is stricter because there's just not enough people around to form groups of people that are differen…

> there's just not enough people around to form groups of people that are different. That's certainly part of it, although I think the bigger factor is that people who are different just leave. Small towns are conformist because of survivorship bias.

Good insight. I didn't think of that.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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This idea appears every once in awhile, as it’s obviously a major issue in modern life. The interesting thing though is how the solution is always location-agnostic. By that I mean it’s never really about a specific cafe or restaurant or soccer field, it’s always an app or service that organizes people to show up in various places. I bring this up because if you look at places that had lively social activities a few…

I agree with this; I think part of the societal problem is one of poor urban planning. I’m lucky to live in a neighborhood in New York (Sunnyside) that has a park that is the hub of everyone’s social life—most nights of the week, people show up, bring some food, and chat/share dinner and drinks while the kids run around playing unsupervised. This is extremely rare in the US, which is dominated by suburban typologies that feature individual homes and relatively few communal spaces. The shared spaces, like restaurants/bars/etc. tend to be places you have to drive to, and therefore have less of a connection to their community and less of a regular clientele. Everyone wants to have their own backyard…which is fine, but leads to people hanging out alone in their own backyard rather than with their friends and neighbors.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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> Men's weekends" just end up with [...] hanging in front of the TV watching boring sports or crappy porn. How many situations are you in where group consumption of pornography is normal? I've been in very few.

Many. And I don't even mind but it's usually really bad porn. Also it's not like anyone does anything, they just sit there and pretend they're not interested or ignore it. It's really weird. Also a kind of macho thing I think. Anyway in Holland this is not uncommon. I have nothing against pornography at all but I do have a minimum quality :) I like the more stylish stuff. Though I prefer watching people in real life,…

It sounds like when you say you go to "male specific" events, you have a very specific set of male-specific events in mind. I suspect the experiences you described earlier are less due to the male-ness of those present, and more simply a function of the social events you tend to go to?

Like, not that that's a bad thing- live your lice how you want- but complaints of "my complaint with all-male gatherings is that the collectively viewed pornography is of insufficiently high quality" are not necessarily the most relatable.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Don't disagree, but some hard things don't get said when the other gender is around, especially with men of a certain age. It takes a lot for many men to even out loud say the word "lonely" or "sad" or "worthless". A lot of male conversation is silent. The whole spiel is to project and feel capable of dealing with the world, to feel useful, to be a Man. To feel otherwise is not "masculine". To admit this to mixed com…

>A lot of male conversation is silent. No it isn't! Men need to talk about their feelings just as much as women! There isn't some major difference in how we handle emotions! We are all human, and humans are emotional creatures. So many men need to Grow the Fuck Up and realize that being vulnerable is not the same as being weak. You need to be talking to your friends or confidants about your feelings. >To feel otherwi…

> Men need to talk about their feelings just as much as women! There isn't some major difference in how we handle emotions!

You are categorically wrong. In fact, you couldn’t be further from the truth.

Men process emotions differently than women do. A real, biological difference. There is a reason why men don’t cry at the end of titanic. And to imply men are somehow emotionally stunted because they don’t emote like a woman does, is not only wrong but is harmful.

> vulnerable is not the same as being weak

Go read a dictionary. Showing vulnerability is the same thing as showing weakness and society shuns and shames weak men. There are reasons for that, and men have every incentive not to show weakness.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

#710

This idea appears every once in awhile, as it’s obviously a major issue in modern life. The interesting thing though is how the solution is always location-agnostic. By that I mean it’s never really about a specific cafe or restaurant or soccer field, it’s always an app or service that organizes people to show up in various places. I bring this up because if you look at places that had lively social activities a few…

I run local communities (specifically a London based Russian Language Machine Learning and AI community, hit me up if you are interested) it's 100% cannot survive long term without a locus in physical space. Online only exists to facilitate offline, if people are just avatars and not real people, there is a hard limit to what can be achieved in a community, its a question of trust.
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