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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Electric cars are doing fine. Sales are up. It's just Tesla that is going down.

Tesla sells more electric cars in the US than every other combined

I was thinking of world sales. Sales are up in Europe for all EVs except Tesla, which is down significantly

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Just tried plain old Kagi search, it came up with cooks illustrated (good source, paid) and consumer reports (decent source, paid), which I was surprised by until I remembered that I had these “pinned”, which means Kagi increases their rank. Third on the page was a condensed roundup of 8 listicles, 2 of which seemed decent (food and wine and some random blogger). With no pins, bon appetit (decent) and nbc news (would…

Why do you think nbc news is fine as a result for rice cooker recommendations? That’s clearly SEO spam, which is why it’s littered with ads.

I just meant that I found this set of reviews to be informative and accurate. It had information that I couldn’t find online elsewhere which is really my main criteria. Generally I’ll skip anything from nbc because of the ads but in this case I read it to form an opinion and the article seemed alright.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Splitting hairs, but LLMs themselves don’t search. LLMs themselves don’t choose the top X. That’s all regular flows written by humans run via tool calls after the intent of your message has been funneled into one of a few pre-defined intents.

How do you know? You could 100% create the tool to search and chose results, go through links, read more pages, etc.

I know because that’s how these systems are built.

I’ve built systems like it.

If it was something brand new, Anthropic would be bragging hard about it.

> You could 100% create the tool to search and chose results, go through links, read more pages, etc.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. _YOU_ could build a tool that does that. The LLM essentially acts as an intent detector, not a web crawler.

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I don't know man, it doesn't take many mental gymnastics here https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1724908287471272299 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/technology/elon-musk-x-po... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/elon-musk-x-twitte... I could keep going but there's really no point

Somehow you have convinced yourself that posting enough small things that could suggest that Musk is a nazi, but don’t really, add up to one convincing argument that he is. No, just post one good summary or obviously revealing incident. And if you point to the salutes, which triggered the whole thing, they’re obviously not sufficient by themselves. You have to at least hear what he has to say. Did you?

He's a Nazi or an absolutely disgusting troll. Both are pretty pathetic. The human thing to have would have been to say "sorry, watching it back, I can see how that looked" and it would have been over.

But no. He's The Douche.

It's also a balance of probabilities thing. He's leaning hard into the far-right at the moment, and he's a well known troll, so if you behave like a douchey troll Nazi, then people tend not to give you the benefit of the doubt when shit goes down. Like when they give the benefit of the doubt to absolutely everyone else in the world caught in a photo waving and it looking like a salute.

Either way ... The Douche won't ever get another penny from me. Bye Tesla. Fuck Starlink, glad I'm not in a situation where that's the only choice. SpaceX? That was always Shotwell's bag anyway and I don't plan on hitching a ride anytime soon.

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It’s a lost cause. He didn’t make such a salute but that doesn’t stop people from seeing what they want to believe. Extreme political tribalism is absolutely destroying human discourse.

Compare Musk doing a my heart goes out gesture https://x.com/kingore91/status/1884580205185954045 to Musk doing the nazi like gesture https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1881583500991889729 I think there's a difference. To me him saying my heart goes out after the second one was trying to cover his arse which seems to have fooled few people who see the videos. And I'm not sure about the tribalism thing - I was kind of a Mus…

> plus his promotion of neo nazis in European politics

The party leader of the party he promotes is a lesbian whose wife is from Sri Lanka.

Neo nazis surely have evolved from the angry, militaristic skinheads we normally picture.

Also, Elon Musk’s local bakery is a nazi bakery, mostly on account of selling bread to Elon Musk knowing he’s a nazi. This makes them nazis, and anyone who eats their bread are nazis, too.

In fact, having not given in to calling Elon Musk a nazi makes me a nazi. It is the fastest growing demography by virtue of absolute inflation of what it means.

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As a German: He did, and even if there is a chance that he didn't mean it like that the risk of another 1933 is not worth it. I usually don't like cancel-culture but you have to have boundaries and I think the risk of another Holocaust and all the other Nazi cruelties is a boundary a functioning society should be able to agree on.

> As a German: He did As a Jew: He didn't. (This argument is absurd.) He was interviewed about it, and he said he didn't. How does being a German get you to jump to conclusions? Are you born with a special ability to detect nazi salutes? Like, did a mirror neuron and a nerve in your torso twitch? When I saw it, I recognised him beating his heart, throwing it to the crowd, and immediately thought "This is going to get…

I think the misconception you have is that nazism means “WW2 anti-semitism” for you. The education on the topic that we get in many European countries goes deeper than that.

Would it be better if they called Elon a fascist? He did the fascist salute, after all. And as other commenters have said: if it endorses authoritarian far-right parties like a duck, has controversial white-supremacist parents like a duck, and does the fascist salute like a duck, at which point do we start wondering wether he’s actually a duck?

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His gesture was _exactly_ like Hitler's. A gesture he repeated. The gesture was quite different to that he'd used previously for 'giving people his heart'. He's known to be a white supremacist. That is apparently his heritage too. He supports far right parties in Europe. Other 'Republican' politicians have repeated the gesture from the dais; but they seem to have made other excuses. None of the many videos or photos…

> His gesture was _exactly_ like Hitler's. Hitler's was unlike the general population's, as it had a bend to it. You can bend reality all you like, but the intent of giving the Hitler salute was not there, as he has said. He's not secretly a nazi, and he's not openly a nazi. He's right-wing, yes. That's not illegal, and it happens to be the majority vote in the US. The most reasonable criticism is calling it a Roman…

The Roman salute has no direct connection to the Roman Empire. It was largely an invention of the 19th and 20th centuries and was popularized by fascist movements.

> The most reasonable criticism is calling it a Roman salute and saying it bears connotations to imperialism, and that it was most recently practiced by Hitler.

For the past >100 years, it’s been the gesture representing the fascist party in Italy and the Nazi party in Germany. You sound like you want to defend the gesture for some reason.

> I think, if you want to read into his deepest, unspoken intents, he probably compares himself to Caesar more than Hitler. Just like Zuckerberg, and all the other multi-billionaires who want to see themselves as the de-facto leaders of the world.

Comparing oneself to Caesar is still a profoundly disturbing thing. He was an oligarch first, then a lifelong dictator, and later a literal deity (according to the Senate).

> He never showed up at a white supremacist rally.

I’m sure you’re smart enough to understand that if he actually showed up to a white supremacy rally, he would be financially destroyed. He’s already lost his public image completely in Europe. So not putting up a KKK hoodie is weak evidence for him not being a white supremacist.

But in any case, none of this matters. Whether or not he personally identifies with fascist ideology is secondary to the effect of his actions. Blurring the line between reasonable discourse and fascist apologism trivializes extremism and hate, and that’s the last thing we need.

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Compare Musk doing a my heart goes out gesture https://x.com/kingore91/status/1884580205185954045 to Musk doing the nazi like gesture https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1881583500991889729 I think there's a difference. To me him saying my heart goes out after the second one was trying to cover his arse which seems to have fooled few people who see the videos. And I'm not sure about the tribalism thing - I was kind of a Mus…

Sorry calling him a nazi for that salute is just crazy. Insane, really.

I didn't call him a nazi, just said he seemed to do the salute. He does seem to lean a bit towards the old South African view of trying to keep problematic groups of people at a distance, but doesn't seem anti jewish.

I think he's been a bit influenced by alt right tweeters on x/twitter. I'm in the UK and he comes up with some strange things about the UK that probably come from there. He seems to feel that our alt rightish anti immigration party, Reform, run by Farage, which has never been in power is not anti immigrant enough and he should step down for someone who properly hates muslims like Tommy Robinson. But it's all a bit odd based seemingly on misinformation from people who have never been to the UK and make things up to tweet.

I'm guessing the salute thing came for interacting with neo nazi types on x and not really realising how negatively that stuff is viewed by many people and now seems bewildered that people would torch Teslas.

I was thinking a lot of the problems are down to misinformation, even going back to the original nazis and stuff about the jews being influenced by satan and causing all the problems which is obviously nonsense but kicked everything off.

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> I asked it "Rust crate to access Postgres with Arrow support" Is that how you actually use llms? Like a Google search box?

“Prompting” is kind of a myth honestly. Think about it, how much marginal influence does it really have if you say OP’s version vs a fully formed sentence? The keywords are what gets it in the area.

Prompting is not a myth. The words of the prompt matter huge.

The problem with this prompt to me is not that it is not in a full sentence but that it isn't exact enough.

Probabilistically, "rust" is not about the programming language but the corrosion of metal. Then arrow.

Give the model basically nothing to work with then complain it doesn't do exactly what you want. Good luck with that.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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I find myself Googling less often these days. Frustrated with both the poor search results and impressed with the quality of AI to do the same thing and more, I think search's days are numbered. AOL lasted as an email address for quite some time after America Online ceased to be a relevant portal. Maybe Gmail will as well.

I am still googling for non-indepth queries because the AI-generated summary at the top of the results is good enough most of the time and actual results are just below in case I want to see them. For more in-depth stuff, it is LLMs by default and I only goto Google when the LLM isn't getting me what I need.

I notice I have been using the Google AI summary more and more for quick things.

I had subscribed to Perplexity for a month to use their deep research. I think it ran out earlier this week but I am really missing it Saturday morning here.

That thing is awesome. Sonnet 3.7 is more in the middle of this to me. It can help me understand all the things I found from my deep research requests.

I am surprised the hype is not more for Sonnet 3.7 honestly.

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