We have too many regulations. I support what DOGE is doing. Thank you dang for letting the world see this topic. I think pg would agree. /s
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#702I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.
Unfortunately, it seems that everyone does it. Can you point to anyone who doesn't?
I find it shocking and absurd too, but in moments of self-honesty I notice myself doing it too. My sense is that the only contribution one can make to changing this pattern is to notice it in oneself and then shift a bit. That's the only place one has a chance to modify anything.
Getting mad at other people for doing it doesn't change anything, and nobody can be persuaded to change.
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#703Can't they add some fake data as canaries/watermarks to identify the perpetrator if the data gets leaked?
Thinkst does this
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#704Earlier quoted context omitted.
People get clearances even if they've used hardcore drugs such as cocaine and various more serious crimes than computer crimes. The adjudication guides for clearances explain this in more detail. I have a friend who exploited RCE full-chain exploits on productions servers and used to DDoS. He got a TS/SCI clearance no problem and didn't even finish college. I interviewed too and admitted to that stuff. They cared mor…
TS/SCI clearance is a lot more about truthfulness. The adjudicators are looking for secrets that can be used as leverage. Publicly writing reviews for cannabis strains is not a risk. A Mormon secretly hiding alcoholic tendencies could be. I'm also told that owning foreign property is unfriendly countries, and debt are the other big reasons for clearance denial.
I have a theory that the normalization of homosexuality in the united states was a move by the security agencies to lower their exposure risk. If everything is cool, nothing is blackmail.
Blackmail is what sinks orgs because you have no idea who is going to be a mole.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#705I thought it was 'The Corn' until I typed it out. I need new glasses.
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#706Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, I mean China already pwned opm.gov and got SF-86 on all fed employees a few years ago. The FBI gives people who have clearances on how adversaries will attempt to get information and what to do. Mainly it's just alerting the employers security office, and former feds get an email to reach out to for questions/concerns post employment. The security clearance process is broken and mostly BS. The head of DCSA and…
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Please don't do this here.
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#707Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did everybody already forget only a month ago it was revealed Chinese hackers had access to US Treasury computers including US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen 's own? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/chinese-h... ( https://archive.ph/xeEaO ) (January 16, 2025)
I find it strange that neither activists nor politicians nor journalists cared about that enough to make it a continuous news cycle. There was also no outrage about various security breaches that exposed personal information for 100 million Americans , like the Change Healthcare breach. The reaction to alleged violation of privacy here seems inconsistent and disproportionate, and I wonder why?
>The reaction to alleged violation of privacy here seems inconsistent and disproportionate, and I wonder why?
because they made a public show of it. That's the big difference. Meanwhile, Healhcare is already under more scutiny than ever and want to bury a lede of hacking.
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When I was a teen these types hung out on IRC and even AOL in chatrooms like "progs" to trade credit card numbers. Young people and operational security doesn't exist.
pr island and pr warez I miss 1IM punting so much and being able to use Gothic Nightmares and FiReTooLz
Yeah it was all fun and games until someone pulls an AOL staff account on ya, looks up your address and proto-swats your home address
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I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. This in their mind is not about improving anything in the government for citizens, or with regard to US interests, it's about gaining access to a hostile entity without regard to their interes…
> They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. People who have had access to that kind of data, and who have those kinds of skills, you'd better be careful about how you dispose of them. (Consider the term "blowback".)
come on, your average 1337 h4x0r does not have a criminal syndicate ready to exact revenge for their fallen comrade
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#710Ignoring the horrifying political parts, I think one aspect here about data access that is inherently worrying is that it seems like all usual controls were bypassed and the DOGE people had very low level access to systems. So there are probably copies of sensitive data now in their possession, and nobody knows exactly what was copied and where it is stored. This kind of access would be dangerous even in the hands of…
What I don’t understand is how this thing happened on the first place. Someone just shouldn’t be able to be appointed by a single dictator, and suddenly have access to a wealth of data that would have made the (here we go) nazi’s green with envy.
Because everyone turned their back with the appointment instead of throwing protests 3 months ago.
We know there's a limit of tolerance for this because Matt Gaetz didn't make it through. But "modern day Tony Stark" was fine.