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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

questinthrow wrote: post #296

Question, what stops openai from downgrading existing models so that you're pushed up the subscription tiers to ever more expensive models? I'd imagine they're currently losing a ton of money supplying everyone with decent models with a ton of compute behind them because they want us to become addicted to using them right? The fact that classic free web searching is becoming diluted by low quality AI content will mak…

Oh, you mean what they did with GPT-4 to make o1 look better and then push everyone to anthropic?

Eh… probably everyone moving to anthropic.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

abhpro wrote: post #632
EcommerceFlow wrote: post #391

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

But is it better than Claude?

Genuinely curious to know. Nothing I’ve used comes close to Claude so far.

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Post by bionhoward »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #391

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

Unlimited — except you can’t use it to develop [business] models that compete

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Post by m3kw9 »

vhayda wrote: post #123

Yesterday, I spent 4.5hrs crafting a very complex Google Sheets formula—think Lambda, Map, Let, etc., for 82 lines. If I knew it would take that long, I would have just done it via AppScript. But it was 50% kinda working, so I kept giving the model the output, and it provided updated formulas back and forth for 4.5hrs. Say my time is $100/hr - that’s $450. So even if the new ChatGPT Pro mode isn’t any smarter but is…

I think you need to realize when it sort of hit a wall and go in yourself. This is why juniors with LLMs cannot replace a senior engineer.

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Post by esafak »

submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

You.com (search engine and LLM aggregator) has a team plan for $25/month.

https://you.com/plans

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Post by j45 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #686
j45 wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a $200/month pro level is successful it could open the door to a $2000/month segment, and the $20,000/month segment will appear and the segregation of getting ahead with AI will begin.

Full blown agents but they have to really able to replace a semi competent, harder than it sounds especially for edge cases where a human can easily get past

Agents still need a fair bit of human input and design and tweaking.

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Post by j45 »

johnisgood wrote: post #596
j45 wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a $200/month pro level is successful it could open the door to a $2000/month segment, and the $20,000/month segment will appear and the segregation of getting ahead with AI will begin.

Agreed. Where may I read about how to set up an LLM similar to that of Claude, which has the minimum length of Claude's context window, and what are the hardware requirements? I found Claude incredibly useful.

Looking into running models locally, maybe a 405B parameter model sounds like the place to start.

Once understood you could practice with a private hosted llm (run your own model) to tweak and get it dialled in per hour, and then make the leap.

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Post by pizza »

beachy wrote: post #662
informal007 wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

This seems like the kind of thing that laws and regulators exist for.

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Post by bionhoward »

Max-q wrote: post #118
hamilyon2 wrote: post #102

I think should hire an economist or ask their superintelligence about the demand. The market is very shallow and nobody has any kind of moat. There is simply not enough math problems out there to apply it to. 200$ price tag really makes no sense to me unless this thing also cooks hot meals. I may be buying it for 100$ though.

$200 is two man hours. So if you save two hours a month, you are breaking even.

No, because the terms imply you cannot actually use the output for any business purpose. How does this sail over so many people’s heads ???

If they do everything and you can’t use their stuff to compete with them, you can’t do anything with their stuff.

That, plus the time cost, and the fact they’re vigorously brain raping this shit out of you every time you use the thing, means it’s worth LESS THAN zero dollars

(unless your work does not compete with intelligence, in which case, please tell me what that is)

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

imgabe wrote: post #677
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

Writers love the em-dash though. It's a thing.

I love using it in my creative writing, I use it for an abrupt change. Find it kinda weird that it's so controversial.
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