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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Not wearing a uniform when you participate in war doesn't make you an illegitimate target, it makes you an illegal combatant.

> it makes you an illegal combatant

Technically yes. Unlawful combatant or unprivileged combatant is more accurate.

It isn't illegal for a soldier to not wear a uniform. It just means the Geneva Conventions don't apply.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Most people are not judges in the international court of justice. The legal technicalities are irrelevant.

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. There are norms of warfare and these attacks fall within them.

They may do so, but you know perfectly well what the reaction would be if this happened to people in the US pursuant to an ongoing conflict.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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If it walks like terrorism, and quacks like terrorism... I struggle to understand how they're imagining they're obviating the optics of this, unless they don't care what the dissenting population in Israel thinks (or the world for that matter) until "it is done".

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Whether terror is an intended effect or not, Israel is engaging in it.

Perhaps in the scheme of things as far as military operations are concerned this is "low" collateral damage. But if 3000+ people were wounded that means potentially tens of thousands experienced the traumatic event of explosives going off in a public space. And hundreds more are mourning family.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Yeah, I can't say I'm a big fan of this massive scale booby trapping devices all over civilian society and I suspect most nation stats are not very happy about this either. The EU is probably not going to be happy at all about Israel using an EU flagged company to do it either. This is going to create a lot of distrust in the international supply chain.

> The EU is probably not going to be happy Happiness is irrelevant, especially when it comes to geopolitics. In the US, criticism of Israel is antagonistic to our Judeo-Christian values. In the EU, criticism of Israel is tantamount to the rise of a Fourth Reich. Germany, in particular, is scared shitless of this accusation, and will accept any and all actions by Israel. This is a country who can do no wrong, and will…

Germany has pretty much halted weapon supplies to Israel, so perhaps you should temper your cynical posture with occasional factual updates.

https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-has-stopped-approving-...

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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"According to Sky News Arabia; Mossad was able to Inject a Compound of Pentaerythritol Tetranitrate (PETN) into the Batteries of the New Encrypted Pagers that Hezbollah began using around February, before they even arrived in the Hands of Hezbollah Members, allowing them to Remotely Overheat and Detonate the Lithium Battery within the Device."

If that's true, then does that make electric vehicles into potential car bombs if "the right thing" is injected into the battery?

This wasn't something magical that turned the battery into an explosive, they allegedly injected an explosive compound into the battery which would be triggered by intentionally overheating the battery.

Like if you packed C4 into an electric car battery, it would be a bomb, much the same way if you packed it into an ordinary empty box. Sure the battery adds some extra energy, but the explosive is the explosive, ya know.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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In the other thread, HN said Israel can only pull this trick only once and they just did it the second time

I guess it could still be considered the same one, just the continuation of it. I was kind of expecting a ground invasion after such havoc in communications has been wrecked. I guess if the "electronic" attack is still going on, maybe something else will still proceed...

I think you could still expect the ground invasion, possibly the day after tomorrow or early next week.

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I assume by "many countries" you mean the US and its allies? Is that it then? Your definition of "terrorist" is whoever the West designates a terrorist? Ergo Nelson Mandela was a terrorist.

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Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist?

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

> how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part?

Terrorism is variously defined [1]. People are debating whether this was "random or indiscriminate nature" relative to other terrorist attacks. But relative to any wartime strike on an enemy capital, it's been highly precise.

The reason it's open to intepretation is we don't know Israel's motivation. Is it to mark Hezbollah members? A prelude to a strategic strike? If so, it's not terrorism. If it's to scare Hezbollah and the Lebanese, on the other hand, it does start to look like terrorism.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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> This was a deliberate targeting of terrorists, Negative. Anyone can use a pager or a walkie talkie. If this were to have happened in say the US, it would 100% be considered not only terrorism, but an act of war.

Who is using a pager or walkie talking in 2024? I will admit there was maybe a few bystanders standing too close to a Hezbollah member, but how many non-Hezbollah members do you think really had one of these pagers? Keep in mind Israel also does surveillance and probably tracked where they went. If it turns out a material % of these were owned by civilians, I might agree with you, but I suspect that’s not the case.

I own walkie talkies. So does any large retail store in the US, they're given to staff to communicate. Every film set with more than 10 crew members uses them. I could go on. I'm amazed people come to a web community about technology to broadcast such ignorance.
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