Live data from Hacker News

iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

apple.com

701–710 of 1001 posts

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#701
post #2

Probably gonna upgrade from my iPhone 11 to a 16 Pro, seems like a good time to make the jump (also I'd need a battery replacement anyway and I rather spend that money on the new phone)

iPhone XS Max here. I'm tempted this year.

iPhone SE 1 here. I’m not.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#702
post #595

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Oh yes. Switched from the iPhone X to a 13 Pro only because the battery life became unbearable. Overall, the size/format/handling of the X was *way better*. Even the camera was *better on the X* except in low-light pictures which I don't really care about. The difference is noticeable on 4K screens and print, pictures were truthf…

I’m still on the X after a $90 battery swap by an Apple shop. I got tired of the small payback doing them myself - and even the iFixit batteries don’t last as long as OEM.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#703

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I've been in tech for 35+ years. I've built CPU architectures, I can write device drivers, I can layout an 8 layer PCB, I can design an RF power amplifier. I like the iPhone because it is easier to use than Android. My iPhone 4 was perfect. I'd still be using it if they haven't deprecated the OS and the battery died. I have exactly 6 non-apple Apps on my current phone. I want FEWER features. Integrated it or hide it.…

You and I both want the phonepliance, I work in tech on highly complex distributed systems, and I use an iPhone because its an appliance, it works, I dont need or want to hack my phone, I just want a phone that works.

I just bought my first iPad, going on a work trip next week, gonna give it a whirl, and try that out.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#704

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

[deleted]

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#706

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> All the spectacular advances in computing power are lost on her as this makes zero difference for the Facebook cat video group and Pinterest.

This is not my experience. All my life I used slow phones and browsing the web on them is excruciating.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#707
I think if I were in the market for a new iPhone the non-pro ones are more than enough for me. I’ve a 14 pro max and I don’t use all of it or its pro features.

What’s even crazier is I am tempted by the pixel fold — that looks amazing for content consumption which is what I use my phone for the most.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#708

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

For me 60Hz on the base model is now a deal breaker. Even our daughter's 300 Euro A54 has a 120Hz screen (though not LTPO). Once you are used to 120Hz on a touch device, it's hard to go back (different on a relatively static computer screen, where I prefer having the high DPI of 5k 27"). So, it's iPhone Pro models until the base model gets >60Hz too.

I understand 60 Hz being “a deal breaker” for gaming and VR applications, but on a battery-constrained mobile phone that I carry everywhere? No thanks. I’d rather have more battery life or less weight in my pocket. 60 Hz is more than adequate.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#709

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> Most people don't buy the pro and they're desperate for selling points in the regular model.

"Pro Max currently accounts for nearly 40% of new model shipments" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386700

You misunderstand the business case: she is not the target demographic/user, filmmakers are (as seen on the presentation). Apple's product marketing is 2nd to none.

To break it down: iPhone 16 is for photographers, Pro for filmmakers; Watch for sport and health enthusiasts, Ultra for athletes; iPad for media consumers, Pro for artists; MacBook Air for everyday consumers, Pro for working professionals; SEs for newbies to grab competitor market share with price penetration, etc.

Research: http://www.marcoshung.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com...

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#710
post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

5x zoom and the new camera button on the Pro sound great to me, will probably upgrade from my 12 mini for that I don’t shoot much video but I do take photos

12 mini is so great but I’m going to have to try moving to the pro.
Post reply on HN