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Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by nonethewiser »

makeitdouble wrote: post #280
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

> Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think you should step back and look at it with a bit of distance. Is the content they're paying for really the same as you think is available for free, and do they even get it under the same conditions, in morality and circumstance. Not knowing your life, it feels like you could have said the same towards pe…

You can think of it as content, but its parasocial none the less.

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Post by agumonkey »

throwanem wrote: post #670
agumonkey wrote: post #639

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Ethical sex? I couldn't talk long with the kids but I assume they took physical safety and freedom as only important aspect when approaching onlyfans. Teen girl idol can spread her legs if she wants to and no one can take advantage (unlike the pre me too era)

Okay, but what I'm really looking for is the account given by its adherents. I want to hear in their own terms, because I genuinely don't know if I can understand the idea in terms of my own experience. I can make it make sense to me, sure; anyone can do that with almost anything. I don't have a guide to how closely that would correspond to the sense made of it by the people who actually pursue it. Third-party opinio…

Fair points. If I may add my own perception of their reality, these are often nymph like teen which maps the usual boy feminine ideal.. so instead of fantasizing about it in comics or animes they have real ones behind screens to interact / drool / peep on, which is also a very boy like mindset. Later on your understanding of beauty, love, relationship evolves beyond that thin layer. It's their neverending christmas.

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Post by arandomusername »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #440
arandomusername wrote: post #396

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So you would have no reservations about a business selling class A drugs to kids? Free market after all.

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I think that's a horrible way to go about life, and I am glad most do not share your outlook and do take moral responsibility for their actions.

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Post by squigz »

tonymet wrote: post #695
squigz wrote: post #4

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> Nearly every creator is making little and are forced to make more and more extreme content to compete. > A huge segment of "creators" are still working for online "networks" aka pimps who force them to share their earnings under threat of abuse. Can you link some sources for these?

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Post by philipwhiuk »

makeitdouble wrote: post #501
paxys wrote: post #281

> The company counted an average of only 42 employees in 2023, down from 61 two years earlier. During the year, it generated $31MM in net revenue per employee (13-28x that of Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft) and $15.5MM in operating profit (27-560x). This is the wildest part. One company that is proving all the "why does need 10000 engineers?" takes true.

My gut feeling is this number doesn't match our assumptions. For instance moderation and community management alone must be a huge pool of people. While the content and comments can be adult, they'll need to deal with all the payment related back and forth, including chargebacks, legal inquiries etc. Same for doxxing, underage filtering, spam and so on. I assume most if not all of it is a different company which isn'…

Moderation and CM will be contractors.

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Post by arandomusername »

itsoktocry wrote: post #433
arandomusername wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you would have no reservations about a business selling class A drugs to kids? Free market after all.

Yes, selling drugs to kids and being a "content creator" on OnlyFans are the same thing.

In an untethered free market, how are they different?

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Post by beeflet »

darepublic wrote: post #338

> Usually, such a ban would destroy a media platforms’ business model, but browser-based experiences are fine for viewing photos and videos and sending messages (in contrast, most games can’t even run). And while apps tend to offer better user experiences and far simpler payment processes, most OnlyFans customers aren’t dissuaded by the need to use a browser, nor the extra hoops involved in manually entering a credit…

> most games can’t even run

Eh, with WebGL and WebRTC maybe. The problem is input

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by tonymet »

rybosworld wrote: post #412

It does seem like the business preys on, primarily teenage boys, in a way that traditional pornography does not. If you look up the user demographics, you'll notice an obvious problem: The demographics do not include the number of users under 18. https://techreport.com/statistics/software-web/onlyfans-stat... Some may say: well that's because you have to be 18 to use the site. But that's not true. Anyone can signup f…

i appreciate your raising awareness here. this is one of many harms

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by brikym »

darepublic wrote: post #338

> Usually, such a ban would destroy a media platforms’ business model, but browser-based experiences are fine for viewing photos and videos and sending messages (in contrast, most games can’t even run). And while apps tend to offer better user experiences and far simpler payment processes, most OnlyFans customers aren’t dissuaded by the need to use a browser, nor the extra hoops involved in manually entering a credit…

Android has shown PWAs can work fine for most applications. Apps are only a big deal because Apple cripples PWAs.
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