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All on a telephone, too.
and probably whatsapp, viber, signal, discord too?
If they do observe it, and the platform owners are responsive to taking down illegal content and/or providing information on the participants, then likely law enforcement is satisfied with that.
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drug trade, crypto scam coordination. All on Telegram.
All on a telephone, too.
Telegram does not do that, and does not shut down the illegal behavior. The problem isn't that illegal stuff happens on Telegram, the problem is that Telegram won't help law enforcement when that illegal behavior is found.
A bunch of people in comments here seem to misunderstand what telegram is. It is not just a messaging app, it is essentially a platform like twitter, with channels, hundreds of thousands of subscribers to those. While I fully support E2EE communication with no back-doors, I think it is perfectly fair for governments to have some control to take down large channels that are clearly against the law. I do not know the t…
What might be essential right to human communication might suddenly become "illegal" according to the government.
So there should never ever be, under no circumstances, even the code and infra to be there to provide backdoor/censorships, otherwise it _will_ be abused by limiting people's communication in the moment they literally need the most.
https://x.com/christogrozev/status/1827450631462048023 > I wonder what caught up with him first: the undisturbed sale of hard drugs vIa telegram, or the undisturbed recruitment of freelancers for GRU's terrorist attacks across Europe. Seems there could be some truth to the accusations.
Telegram and cryptocurrency has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic, sex blackmail rings in South Korea. Cant say I have good things to say about Telegram founders and operators. Its not some innocent "free speech" messenger app, its sinister
I thought Reagan beat that with his war on drugs? Obviously flippant comment, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "Te....chnology has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic,", to which I would answer 'No, it's always been about dollar bills, and what 'recent' drug epidemic?" The US opioid crisis wasn't fuelled by telegram.
A bunch of people in comments here seem to misunderstand what telegram is. It is not just a messaging app, it is essentially a platform like twitter, with channels, hundreds of thousands of subscribers to those. While I fully support E2EE communication with no back-doors, I think it is perfectly fair for governments to have some control to take down large channels that are clearly against the law. I do not know the t…
So you endorse governments from the middle-east being in their right to delete anything they see as "illegal" because they are blasphemous for example?
https://x.com/christogrozev/status/1827450631462048023 > I wonder what caught up with him first: the undisturbed sale of hard drugs vIa telegram, or the undisturbed recruitment of freelancers for GRU's terrorist attacks across Europe. Seems there could be some truth to the accusations.
Cannot terrorist-freelancers (whatever that means) be recruited with Element, Signal, VK or email on Yandex?
Telegram's policy is apparently to not moderate anything, and ignore law enforcement requests.
I'm not saying Telegram is right or wrong here, just that their behavior may not be legal in places like France.
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> How does an inanimate object incite violence or sell drugs? Please stop being so (seemingly-intentionally) obtuse about this. Certainly the participants of the channel are the ones who incite violence or sell drugs. But some laws also make it illegal to "host" the people who do those sorts of things. A Telegram channel can host these people. > If France can't access these channels, how do they know the violence or…
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A channel that incites violence is against the law (in some countries). A channel selling drugs is against the law. These are few examples. I do not how the specific details of the French case to comment on the specifics. I could believe the arrest is poorly justified, but I have reasonably belief in their justice system.
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the EU is becoming a parody >we've got to save democracy by restricting free speech and enforcing laws and regulations created by unelected officials
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Russian-controlled is an overstatment, but it's definitely Russian-influenced. There seems to have been some kind of balance - Durov allowed the Russians some limited control in exchange for being allowed to operate in Russia. The publicly visible manifestation of this deal was, for instance, the ban on "Путь домой" (Way home) channel where the wifes of mobilized men organized their movement. I'm not stating this nec…
Путь домой is an active channel. It has 53,690 subscribers. There is a "FAKE" label (first time I've seen that...) and an associated warning: "Warning: Many users report that this account impersonates a famous person or organisation[sic]." There are regular posts, the most recent being 31 minutes ago. Translating about 10 of them, I see a many parents complaining about the treatment of conscripts.
Also, there were previous instances of cooperation when Durov himself admitted it in his memetic "...or full cesation of Telegram operation in Russia" survey.