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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by notpachet »

skilled wrote: post #564
markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

I wonder if Apple ever approached Google about using Gemini as the flagship integration. I say that because during the keynote I kept thinking to myself, this could be the moment that Google realises it needs to stick to what it knows best - Search - and all they have to do is sit back and watch the hype fade away. But that’s in a perfect world. Even to this day, post ChatGPT, I still can’t imagine how I would ever u…

> this could be the moment that Google realises it needs to stick to what it knows best - Search

You misspelled "ads"

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Post by hot_gril »

Almondsetat wrote: post #235
HWR_14 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why take up processor time or memory for a feature I don't want? Or the increase in threat space?

This could be said for literally every single feature of a smartphone, down to the out of order execution of the CPU

That's exactly why I wait extra long to install updates.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Dakizhu »

matt-attack wrote: post #651
triyambakam wrote: post #565

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> AI is supposed to get rid of the chores, now it leaves us with the chores and take the creative part away. I don't need such AI. You know I hadn't considered that and I think that's very insightful. Thank you

This quote has been circulating recently: > I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes

Seems kind of silly. Laundry machines and dishwashers exist. The issue with the last mile is more robotics and control engineering than strictly AI. It's getting annoying seeing AI used as an umbrella term for everything related to automation.

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Post by jwr »

hmottestad wrote: post #682
highwaylights wrote: post #603

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Ironically, I feel like Apple might have lost me as a customer today. It won't matter to Apple, obviously, but so much of what they showed today I just felt was actively pushing me out of the ecosystem. I first bought some devices for myself, then those devices got handed off to family when I upgraded, and now we're at a point where we still use all of the devices we bought to date - but the arbitrary obsolescence ha…

From rumours of Apple buying lots of GPUs from Nvidia not that long ago I think management got a nice little scare when OpenAI released GPT-3.5 and then GPT-4. It takes several years to bring a CPU to market. Apple probably realised far too late that they needed specific features in their SOCs to handle the new AI stuff, so it wasn’t included in anything before the A17 Pro. For the M1, M2 and M3 I believe that Apple…

Apple started including the neural engine back with A11 Bionic. In 2017.

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Post by nox101 »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

I have no confidence this will work as intended. The last MacOS upgrade had the horrible UX of guessing which emoji you want and being wrong 95% of the time. I don't expect this to be any better. Demos are scripted.

I also expect it to fail miserably on names (places, restaurants, train stations, people), people that are bilingual, non-English, people with strong accents from English not being their first language, etc.

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Post by bredren »

Nition wrote: post #655

Aside from the search and Siri improvements, I'm really not sure about the usefulness of all the generative stuff Apple is suggesting we might use here. If you spend an hour drawing a picture for someone for their birthday and send it to them, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the picture but in the fact that you went to the effort, and that it's something unique only you could produce for th…

I've got a fairly sophisticated and detailed story world I've been building up with my kid, it always starts the same way and there are known characters.

We've been building this up for some time, this tiny universe is the most common thing for me to respond to "will you tell me a story?" (something that is requested sometimes several times a day) since it is so deeply ingrained in both our heads.

Yesterday, while driving to pick up burritos, I dictated a broad set of detailed points, including the complete introductory sequence to the story to gpt-4o and asked it to tell a new adventure based on all of the context.

It did an amazing job at it. I was able to see my kid's reaction in the reflection of the mirrors and it did not take away from what we already had. It actually gave me some new ideas on where I can take it when I'm doing it myself.

If people lean on gen ai with none of their own personal, creative contributions they're not going to get interesting results.

But I know you can go to the effort to create and create and create and then on top of that layer on gen AI--it can knock it out of the park.

In this way, I see gen AI capabilities as simply another tool that can be used best with practice, like a synthesizer after previously only having a piano or organ.

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Post by hmottestad »

teruakohatu wrote: post #676
peppertree wrote: post #368

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I think the biggest announcement was the private compute cloud with Apple Silicon. Apple is building up internal expertise to go after Nvidia.

Apple have a long antagonist relationship with NVIDIA. If anything it is holding Apple back because they don’t want to go cap in hand to NVIDIA and say “please sir, can I have some more”. We see this play out with the ChatGPT integration. Rather than hosting GPT-4o themselves, OpenAI are. Apple is providing NVIDIA powered AI models through a third party, somewhat undermining the privacy first argument.

Rumours say that Apple has bought a lot of GPUs from Nvidia in the last year or so in order to train their own models.

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Post by TMWNN »

paradite wrote: post #185
alberth wrote: post #124

Regarding OpenAI, has Apple in its history ever relied so heavily on a 3rd party for software features? (TSMC for hardware, but it seems very un-Apple to be so dependent upon someone else for software capabilities like OpenAI)

Does Microsoft Office in early days of Mac OS count? I guess not.

I don't see why it would not count. Same for Adobe products.

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Post by skybrian »

Nition wrote: post #655

Aside from the search and Siri improvements, I'm really not sure about the usefulness of all the generative stuff Apple is suggesting we might use here. If you spend an hour drawing a picture for someone for their birthday and send it to them, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the picture but in the fact that you went to the effort, and that it's something unique only you could produce for th…

The value of a gift isn't solely on how much you worked on it or what you spent on it. It can also be in picking out the right one, if you picked something good.

Context will be more important when the gift itself is easy.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by kristofferR »

ethbr1 wrote: post #384
mcpar-land wrote: post #379

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this being a news thread about Apple integrating AI into all their operating systems and apps aside... Chrome has started prompting me to use generative AI in text boxes. Twitter (X) has an entire tab for Grok that it keeps giving me popup ads for. Every single productivity suite (Notion, Monday, Jira) are perpetually prompting me to summarize my issue with AI. Github has banner ads for Copilot. It is everywhere.

Summarization was implemented everywhere because it was the easiest AI feature to ship when a VP screamed "Do AI, so our C-suite can tell investors we're an AI company!"

Summarization is damn useful, though. It has solved clickbait and TLDR-spam, now you can always know if something is worth watching/reading before you do.
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