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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#702I guess the main question is who else will be on the board and to what degree will this new board be committed to the Open AI charter vs being Sam/MSFT allies. I think having Sam return as CEO is a good outcome for OpenAI but hopefully he and Greg stay off the board. It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission. I was a bit alarmed by the…
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#703I really did not think that would happen. I guess the obvious next question is what happens to Ilya? From this announcement it appears he is off the board. Is he still the chief scientist? I find it hard to believe he and Sam would be able to patch their relationship up well enough to work together so closely. Interesting that Adam stayed on the board, that seems to disprove many of the theories floating around here…
Strangely I think Ilya comes out of this well. He made a decision based on his values and what he believed was the best decision for AI safety. After seeing the outcome of that decision he changed his mind and owned that. He must have known it would result in the internet ridiculing him for flip flopping, but acted in what he thought was the best interest for the employees signing the letter. His actions are wroth criticism but I think his moral character has been demonstrated.
The other members of the board seemed to make their decision based on more personal reasons that seems to fit with Adams conflict of interest. They refused to communicate and only now accept any sort of responsibility for their actions and lack of plan.
Honestly Ilya is the only one of the 4 I would actually want still on the board. I think we need people who are willing to change direction based on new information especially in leadership positions despite it being messy, the world is messy.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#704The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
> It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
If you look at who's running Google right now, you would be essentially correct.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#705The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
The service itself has an incredible amount of utility and he will make them all wealthy. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#706Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
> there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. That they reached a different conclusion than the outcome you wished for does not indicate a lack of critical thinking skills. They have a different set of information than you do, and reached a different conclusion.
They could just reach different conclusion based on their values. OpenAI doesn't seem to be remotely serious about preventing the misuse of AI.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#707The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
Either:
Incubation of senior management in US tech has reached singularity and only one person's up for the job. Doom awaits the US tech sector as there's no organisational ability other than one person able and willing to take the big complex job.
Or:
Sam's overvalued.
One or the other.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#708I really did not think that would happen. I guess the obvious next question is what happens to Ilya? From this announcement it appears he is off the board. Is he still the chief scientist? I find it hard to believe he and Sam would be able to patch their relationship up well enough to work together so closely. Interesting that Adam stayed on the board, that seems to disprove many of the theories floating around here…
Sam will have no issue patching the relationship because he knows how a business relationship works. Besides, Ilya kissed the ring as evidenced by his tweet.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#709So OpenAI's board is now exclusively white men, and predominantly tech insiders?
Lovely to have such a diverse group behind this technology
Could this be more comical?
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#710Sam's power was tested and turned out to be absolute.
Sam was doing whatever he wanted, got caught, and now can continue to do what he wants with even more backing.